Posted on 12/31/2023 11:43:01 AM PST by DallasBiff
To be fair, Karen’s drum solo is most likely lip-synched, eg what you’re hearing isn’t what you’re seeing. It’s a close approximation - she’s hitting the snare when I hear a snare, and she’s hitting the hi-hat when I hear hi-hat on the backing track.
Karen clearly had good rudimentary skills, was able to play a battery of percussion, and (I suspect) could read music. That’s not true of Moonie or Bonham.
At the same time, Karen wouldn’t last a set with The Who circa 1969-1972, or Zeppelin circa 1969-1970. Different styles, tempers, and feel. Indeed, The Who’s late bassist John Entwistle said “ Well, on his breaks, for instance, (Moon) wouldn’t go around the toms like someone normally would. He didn’t play from left to right or right to left, he played forwards. It’s hard to explain. He went from the snare to the toms a lot, and he’d always start his breaks with his left hand instead of his right, which was sort of strange. When you see him playing mad breaks, he’s not going around the kit, he’s going forward: His arms are moving forward from the snare to the toms. ”
When I was in college in the 80s, and had access to the music Usenet group, someone posed this question: who is the true musician - a classical player who can read anything but can’t improvise, or a punker who’s all feel but can’t read?
There is a place for Karen, John, and Keith in Drummers Heaven. Just please don’t ask Moonie or Bonzo to play a Carpenters song, or Karen to play Bargain or Achilles Last Stand.
Meh....
She doesn't even come close to modern day's Sina........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q8s93klams
She had the voice of an Angel.
There is a young German girl who plays the drums who is far better than Karen Carpenter was, and she could give the drumming greats a run for their money. I forget what her name was.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anika_Nilles
She was a talented young lady… And died way too young.
A beautiful voice too.
Happy new year, Miss Janie. And God bless.
Hal Blaine is the drummer on most, if not all, Carpenters tracks. He had a tough time convincing Karen’s Mom and Dad that she was better suited to solo vocal role.
The production quality of Carpenters recordings is nearly unparalleled. I was into Yes back then, not paying much attention. Over the years it has become much more apparent how talented she was.
Indeed, she did pass way too early, in her very talented life.
Thank you! And, Happy New Year to you, too, dear FRiend.
Many blessings, in 2024.
Agree. She did have the voice of an Angel.
It depends on what the songwriter called for.
I have heard that joke before, usually snickered at by people with a certain type scavenger mentality.
Mama Cass happened to die of a heart attack while eating a sandwich.
Karen Carpenter was graced by God to delight the world with her superb talent.
Once they put her out front and she just sang, they never could find a drummer as good as Karen.
My wife just told me she died of anorexic caused side effects.
So far above them
Same here, l have enjoyed discovering and learning to appreciate the many truly great musical contributions that l missed while l was following Yes, ELP, Floyd and the others.
Outstanding statement.
That is correct, very sad and tragic an eating disorder led to her death. Such a terrible waste.
“My wife just told me she died of anorexic caused side effects.”
Yes. Laxatives, bulimia, IIRC thyroid medicine (which she didn’t need) weakened her heart. She had just begun to break that syndrome when she died; she was coming around. Sadly, she already had done too much damage to her heart.
The best voice. I have to admit that I don’t “get” the whole drum thing, but the voice ... OMG. Heavenly.
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