Posted on 12/08/2023 5:54:35 PM PST by bitt
You’re spinning as hard a you can but it’s no good.
“I do not see where Dr. Buckhaults claims that he has conclusive proof that this DNA contamination has caused cancers or other diseases. Lot’s of ‘maybes’, ‘could be’, etc.”
That’s how scientists talk. It’s a cultural thing.
“Over time, the relative concentration of DNA will increase as the mRNA degrades at a faster rate. Has anyone tested vaccines directly off the assembly line?”
The relative concentration doesn’t matter, it’s the absolute concentration of DNA that matters.
Up thread I sent you a link (the same post mentioning Chemical & Engineering News) with a long article detailing five ways these clot shots can get DNA into the nucleus, which those pressing the shots had said was impossible.
The two most important things in that link are
a) chemically treating the plasmids left over from creating the mRNA by chopping them up made the problem *worse* (increasing the chance if incorporating small snippets of DNA into the genome of the cell: and that is the mechanism of cancer formation that Dr. Buckhaults was talking about)
b) there is a specific 72-nucleotide-long segment from the plasmids, which EXPERIMENTALLY was found in the vials using standard sequencing tools
b-1) this segment specializes in pulling stuff into the nucleus
(this is BAD)
b-2) Pfizer apparently used the same software package in the sequencing, which annotates known sequences in the diagram of the sample that it makes during analysis, but Pfizer’s output, on the same shots, somehow neglected to show this bad 72-nucleotide sequence: raising “suspicions” that Pfizer edited the diagram and took that out, before presenting it to regulators as part of the approval process.
(In the vernacular, unofficially, away from libel suits or career consequences, a layperson might call this a “cover-up.”)
That prior piece I mentioned involves numerous other MDs and PhDs.
Returning to your allegations that this treatment for sickle cell is the ‘exact same technology’ as mRNA vaccines:
grey_whiskers wrote: There you go, lying through your teeth again troll. If the exact same technology (mRNA encased in a nanolipid particle) is explicitly used for genetic engineering, then it is intrinsically possible for (mRNA encased in a nanolipid particle) to effect genetic changes.”
Fox news has this article explaining the treatment:
Quote begins:
To receive the treatment, patients will undergo a bone marrow transplant.
First, the patient will receive medication to help stem cells move from the bone marrow into the bloodstream. Next, the blood will be collected and the stem cells isolated.
The cells then will be shipped to a laboratory, where genetic technology will be used to edit their DNA.
The patient will then receive chemotherapy to destroy all potential stem cells, ideally, that could produce sickle cells in the future.
The edited cells then will be infused back into the patient under the monitoring of health care professionals, who will ensure that healthy cells are produced in the bone marrow.
Quote Ends.
https://www.foxnews.com/health/remarkable-gene-editing-treatment-sickle-cell-disease-approved-fda
Evidently, you must have received a far different vaccinaton that the rest of us if you underwent a bone marrow transplant, had your stem cells removed, and received chemotherapy.
It should be abundantly clear that mRNA vaccine technology isn’t the technology used for this sickle cell treatment.
I graciously accept your apology for calling me a liar and a troll.
That’s a different treatment than the one in Chemical & Engineering News, which was just mRNA /LNP and has been implemented in a mouse model.
They are distinct because I wrote posts here on FR about the methodology from Fix News you describe, saying the C&EN methodology would be competition for them (the type of procedure Fox News News describes, used to cost half a million without the CRISPR step, when done for leukemia).
“Fix News”
I 🤬 autocorrect
grey_whiskers wrote: ““Fix News” I 🤬 autocorrect”
No, you were corrected.
It’s possible to “bank” blood before an operation. If her iron count is low she probably can’t bank her own right now, but if she has a friend or relative with a compatible blood type, maybe her doctor would be able to work with that?
No idea if they’ll allow that, just throwing out possibilities.
Over 70 years ago I first saw the sequences of development of the modern horse in the American Museum of Natural History (amnh) in New York. These were whole skeletons, parts of skeletons like legs and feet, all in fossil form. I would stare at these samples and see the gradual changes in bone shape and size, leading to such very visible changes as that from 5 toes with small nails to a single hoof, a very large “nail.” God can do a lot over 55 million years, and for those who question millions of years, I say why limit God with your lack of imagination. Humans like to experiment by changing aspects of what is, why wouldn’t God. Below, some information from my original source:
https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/horse/the-evolution-of-horses
I should add, during my multiple visits to this Museum, I also saw exhibits of a number of other modern creatures who have evolved over time, especially as earth conditions have changed, as happened when vast grasslands began to develop in the North American continent. As I just said, don’t limit God, revel in his vast imagination and capacity to change what is. He would not want you to limit yourself. There is so much out there for you to see if you just open yourself up to actually looking. I strongly believe God would want you to learn more about the wonders he has created, and at times found wanting for the new worlds he has created.
Over 70 years ago I first saw the sequences of development of the modern horse in the American Museum of Natural History (amnh) in New York. These were whole skeletons, parts of skeletons like legs and feet, all in fossil form. I would stare at these samples and see the gradual changes in bone shape and size, leading to such very visible changes as that from 5 toes with small nails to a single hoof, a very large “nail.” God can do a lot over 55 million years, and for those who question millions of years, I say why limit God with your lack of imagination. Humans like to experiment by changing aspects of what is, why wouldn’t God. Below, some information from my original source:
https://www.amnh.org/exhibitions/horse/the-evolution-of-horses
I should add, during my multiple visits to this Museum, I also saw exhibits of a number of other modern creatures who have evolved over time, especially as earth conditions have changed, as happened when vast grasslands began to develop in the North American continent. As I just said, don’t limit God, revel in his vast imagination and capacity to change what is. He would not want you to limit yourself. There is so much out there for you to see if you just open yourself up to actually looking. I strongly believe God would want you to learn more about the wonders he has created, and at times found wanting for the new worlds he has created.
You cannot prove what you allege. So called scientists date fossils by strata and strata by fossils; you and they both ignore cases where strata occur out of order or in reverse order - that is NOT science but blind faith. Fossils are found in the “wrong” strata, but your kind ignore them. You do not seem to even be a scientist. Your so called argument is tepidly weak and you continue to make assertions without any evidence...just false dreams.
Meanwhile you ALSO continue to exhibit blind ignorance of God.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Herbs, trees and horses all bring forth after their OWN kind. Just so we are clear, that means they did NOT bring forth some OTHER kind. That means God set hereditary laws in order such that there is no crossing of species. And even when men try to interfere, the offspring are either sterile or revert back to kind in the next generation.
15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
But you are a liar, falsely alleging that God does not do what he says and has clearly said.
For those who question God’s word, why limit God with your lack of faith in his power and ability to do things exactly as he said he did?
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Humans like to dream up why wouldn’t God do this, or that? God already told you what he did, you just close your ears and refuse to listen.
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Add not unto his words, lest THOU BE FOUND A LIAR!
Do you think God doesn’t know about variations well within species? Do you think the God of Israel didn’t know about breeding and external influences?
37 ¶ And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.
38 And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.
39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.
Add thou not unto his words, lest THOU BE FOUND A LIAR!
You cannot prove what you allege. So called scientists date fossils by strata and strata by fossils; you and they both ignore cases where strata occur out of order or in reverse order - that is NOT science but blind faith. Fossils are found in the “wrong” strata, but your kind ignore them. You do not seem to even be a scientist. Your so called argument is tepidly weak and you continue to make assertions without any evidence...just false dreams.
Meanwhile you ALSO continue to exhibit blind ignorance of God.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Herbs, trees and horses all bring forth after their OWN kind. Just so we are clear, that means they did NOT bring forth some OTHER kind. That means God set hereditary laws in order such that there is no crossing of species. And even when men try to interfere, the offspring are either sterile or revert back to kind in the next generation.
15 ¶ Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
But you are a liar, falsely alleging that God does not do what he says and has clearly said.
For those who question God’s word, why limit God with your lack of faith in his power and ability to do things exactly as he said he did?
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Humans like to dream up why wouldn’t God do this, or that? God already told you what he did, you just close your ears and refuse to listen.
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
Add not unto his words, lest THOU BE FOUND A LIAR!
Do you think God doesn’t know about variations well within species? Do you think the God of Israel didn’t know about breeding and external influences?
37 ¶ And Jacob took him rods of green poplar, and of the hazel and chesnut tree; and pilled white strakes in them, and made the white appear which was in the rods.
38 And he set the rods which he had pilled before the flocks in the gutters in the watering troughs when the flocks came to drink, that they should conceive when they came to drink.
39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.
Add thou not unto his words, lest THOU BE FOUND A LIAR!
I didn't allege anything. Stop posting to me.
I’ve been looking for article that said young people are dying greatly now. It was in The Hill. The number 158,000 sticks in my memory, but I can’t remember what it represents: 158,000 more dying?
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