[bimboeruption]

To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Respectfully, this is America. Christian America. Our history does not include ‘GLory’ to anyone other than to God. All Glory to God.

Less propaganda would be appreciated.

43 posted on 12/2/2023, 11:36:05 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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[BroJoeK]

bimboeruption: "Respectfully, this is America. Christian America.
Our history does not include ‘GLory’ to anyone other than to God.
All Glory to God."

Respectfully, the dictionary definitions of "glory" include:

"1) high renown or honor won by notable achievements:
example: 'to fight and die for the glory of one's nation' "

2) magnificence or great beauty:
example: "the train has been restored to all its former glory"

3) a thing that is beautiful or distinctive; a special cause for pride, respect, or delight:
example: "the glories of Paris"

4) the splendor and bliss of heaven:
example: "with the saints in glory"

5) praise, worship, and thanksgiving offered to a deity."

So, even in America, "glory" is perfectly acceptable for use as other than praise and worship of God.

And what does the Bible say about "glory"?

"When used in reference to natural objects "glory" may refer to
1. the brightness of heavenly bodies ( Acts 22:11 ; 1 Col 15:41 ),
2. the fruitfulness of a forest ( Isa 35:2 ; 60:13 ),
   
3. the awesomeness of a horse's snorting ( Job 39:20 ), or
4. the ornateness of expensive clothing ( Luke 7:25 )."
   
   
5. Humans can also experience glory:
   Joseph's glory ( Gen 45:13 ) is his position in Egypt, David's ( Psalm 21:5 ) and Jehoiakim's ( Jer 22:18 ) their royal position in Judah, and Joshua's ( Num 27:20 ) his position of authority over the people of God.

6. Possessions can have glory:
   In the sense of possessions, Jacob's glory ( Gen 31:1 ) is his servants and animals ( Gen 30:43 ).
   Glory is the wealth of the wicked rich ( Psalm 49:17 ) as well as of the industrious, ideal wife ( Prov 31:24-25 ).
   And the wealth of the nations is the glory of restored Jerusalem ( Isa 66:11-12 ).

7. God.
   The most significant use of the ideas of glory and majesty is their application to God.
   In this regard, it is sometimes stated that God's glory is the external manifestation of his being.
   God's glory is something that appears ( Exod 16:10 ), is revealed ( Isa 40:5 ), or can be seen ( Num 14:22 ).
   There is also a more fundamental sense in which God has glory prior to any external manifestation of it.
   An important passage in this regard is Exodus 33:18-23, which shows that, while there are aspects of God's nature that are revealed to Moses (his name, "back"), there are other aspects that are not manifested (his glory, "face").
   Thus, God's glory exists prior to and apart from any manifestation of it.

8. The same teaching is implied in John 17:5, when Christ refers to the glory that he had with the Father before the world was.
   And in Proverbs 25:2, the glory of God is in concealing, rather than in manifesting.
   Moreover, the titles of God as the Glorious One ( Psalm 3:3 ) and the Majesty on High ( Heb 1:3 ; 8:1 ) point to the same conclusion, that God's glory is fundamentally independent of external manifestation."

Bottom line: "glory" does not necessarily only refer to God.

bimboeruption: "Less propaganda would be appreciated."

The word "glory" does not make this thread either blasphemous or propaganda.
So you can relax and breathe easier now.