Do you think he’s a traitor?
The unelected government keeps daring the elected government to do anything about it. So far, the elected government has not shown that it is able to - nor that it are anything more than a large theatrical troupe putting on a carefully scripted performance to mollify the inattentive.
Snowden is a "traitor" against traitors.
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Hear, Hear!
Massie is right about that.
“The unelected government”
Does that include Biden?
I don’t know if he’s a hero. Might be pushing it.
But he is the textbook whistleblower.
And then those people who lied to the public, lied under oath (example Clapper), and the same folks that abused some of these powers for political gain (AG and Comey), go after Snowden full force. The liars, cheaters and backstabbers are lecturing us about integrity and loyalty.
I don’t want to judge Snowden harshly because the simple truth is that whistleblower protections and politics in the federal government are a joke, i.e. turn yourself in so we can fire you. These so called protections are all BS and only serve leadership to actually identify and suppress anyone that might want to blow the whistle. I do not know how else he could have accomplished what he did, so making some general statement that he should have handled it differently isn’t realistic.
I agree, Snowden is a hero and if the reptiles leading America get their hands on him Snowden is a dead man.
So true!
He’s a a hero.
Do people even understand what that means - unelected and unconstitutional?
Has the average person come to terms yet with the existence of such a thing?
What it boils down to is a choice: a comfortable slavery or a risky, potentially painful independence.
For me the discomfort of being controlled by someone else’s will vastly outweighs the pain of personal failure.
No.
Me.
Mine.
He paid the price and he was looking for protection as a whistle-blower. Deepstate forced him against a wall.
I guess the only way of measuring the thought of having sympathy for Snowden is based upon what he accomplished by doing it in a legal or illegal way. If he had done it legally, using the information that he could legally use, that still makes him a whistleblower but not a criminal (traitor). He chose to leak sensitive information marked confidential to the public, escaped the US, and became a Russian citizen.
There are channels to point out deficiencies in the system without making it so obvious what he was doing. He wasn’t trying to help. He was attacking the country he left and became a citizen of another country. That’s noit a whistleblower. That’s a spy doing espionage. And it didn’t change a thing anyway.
wy69
I agree
Of course now we know about them and keep re-electing the people that made them, and nothing happens.
Snowden showed us the vast deep-state spy network that existed and hte tools the deep-state uses for mass surveillence.
Trump’s 2016 campaign showed de facto how those tools are used politically.
Trump should have pardoned both Snowden and Assange, as a middle-finger to the DC deep-state hacks of all stripes who still attack him today.
Snowden is a hero
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SnowJob is anything but a hero - while the press played his fiddle, he gave the Chinese, then the Russians who in turn gave to the Iranians and AQ, all of NSA’s Methods and Means of collection as well as the names of the projects and people working in those countries (all now dead).
The information that appeared in public meta data etc had been in the public domain since the late 1980s. This is the ‘heroic’ information which anyone could find in any good public library - if anyone bothered to look.
When Snowjob fled the country, it was with his female Chinese handlers, and when he had outlived his usefulness to China, they give him the boot, so he fled to the Russian embassy.
What was stolen cost billions and lives to produce and more billions and lives to repair.
Some Hero. Right up there with Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen.
Apparently it does not matter what Congress knows or does not know—they are not acting.
However, Snowden is a hero to me—because he gave me actionable intelligence.
I now know that there is no privacy anywhere no matter who guarantees it—and can act accordingly.