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Hospitals are dropping Medicare Advantage plans left and right: 13 updates
Backers Hospital Reviee ^ | November 16, 2023 | Jakob Emerson

Posted on 11/24/2023 10:47:42 AM PST by buckalfa

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To: Honest Nigerian

“The Medicare Supplement products are NOT cheap.”

It depends. Like I just said my Part F premium is just over $110/month.


121 posted on 11/24/2023 3:09:02 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Gaffer

That’s so that the nonprofit hospitals can write off Z90% of care as a “loss” for tax purposes.


122 posted on 11/24/2023 3:17:10 PM PST by tinamina (Remember when Biden said “we have developed the most sophisticated voting fraud system ever”? )
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To: G Larry

My mother in law had mma Humana South Florida
I handled her claims never an issue
There were plenty of claims!!!


123 posted on 11/24/2023 3:17:15 PM PST by italianquaker
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To: buckalfa
When Health Insurers Break State Laws

https://www.propublica.org/article/health-insurance-denials-breaking-state-laws

Claim File Helper

https://projects.propublica.org/claimfile/

How Cigna Saves Millions by Having Its Doctors Reject Claims Without Reading Them

https://www.propublica.org/article/cigna-pxdx-medical-health-insurance-rejection-claims

124 posted on 11/24/2023 3:17:47 PM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: Jim Noble
... the hospital adjacent entrepreneurial inventions exist to strip-mine the huge pool of money ...

But you have to admit that the core of medicine has made a valiant effort to cash in, too. Why does an audiologist charge ten times what a drugstore does for essentially the same hearing aids?

Every po-dunk town used to have an eye doctor who made a fat living working 4 short days and playing golf on Wednesdays until somebody figured out eyeglasses didn't have to cost an arm and a leg.

And the duplication of million dollar diagnostic machines in service areas is another cost-driving force. We have a good friend wh is a Doc in private practice, and he loves to talk about the two medical monstrosities at war in our service area, but they do everything but fight a price war.

125 posted on 11/24/2023 3:18:46 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: telescope115

I’m pretty sure the formularies (covered drugs in different categories) vary among Part D plans but have to verify that. When I picked my Part D plan three years ago I thought that my selected plan was better for high-tier drugs but again have to confirm. I seem to recall that all Part D plans have to cover a given number of drugs in each category but which ones and maybe copay amounts is up to them.


126 posted on 11/24/2023 3:21:04 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: steve86
... When I picked my Part D plan three years ago I thought that my selected plan was better for high-tier drugs but again have to confirm....

I swear to God that no one really knows everything until a claim is filed.

127 posted on 11/24/2023 3:29:35 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: gloryblaze; Gaffer

iirc, I think I read something recently about proposed legislation would make buying prescriptions from Canadian pharmaceutical operations illegal for US citizens.

Any chance this could happen?


128 posted on 11/24/2023 3:30:41 PM PST by thinden (buckle up ....)
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To: gloryblaze

Yeah, but they don’t have discretion to deny a Part D claim if the drug is listed on the formulary. It is either covered or it isn’t.


129 posted on 11/24/2023 3:44:41 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: thinden
iirc, I think I read something recently about proposed legislation would make buying prescriptions from Canadian pharmaceutical operations illegal for US citizens.

Any chance this could happen?

I think it is illegal, but not seriously enforced. I really don't know enough to have a strong opinion. If Canadian taxpayers subsidize the price, that is not fair. I can't see why some US sellers do not have a process to bid on the meds, so there is competition. Big Pharma does seem to have license to steal. It is probably just another example of corruption, sad to say.

130 posted on 11/24/2023 3:46:43 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: steve86
Yeah, but they don’t have discretion to deny a Part D claim if the drug is listed on the formulary. It is either covered or it isn’t.

Sounds good, but the dosage or the need may be argued.

131 posted on 11/24/2023 3:49:09 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: joe fonebone
My insurance specialist said she could make 6 times the commission by selling me the advantage plan, but she would not do that to me...

My broker also refuses to sell Medicare Advantage.

132 posted on 11/24/2023 3:51:29 PM PST by TexasKamaAina (The time is out of joint. - Hamlet)
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To: gloryblaze

From quick reading it appears that a denial can come only from 1) Need to use less expensive drugs first (step therapy) - which is clearly documented in the contract or 2) Because the plan covers only 30 per month, etc., and not more, or 3) Because prior authorization wasn’t obtained for certain drugs (this is the area where they may have some discretion — it isn’t a factor for common drugs).


133 posted on 11/24/2023 3:57:10 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: nutmeg

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134 posted on 11/24/2023 3:57:14 PM PST by nutmeg (FJB)
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To: TexasKamaAina
My broker also refuses to sell Medicare Advantage.

They are out there! Use an agent/broker who you can contact after the dotted line is signed. Do not buy on the internet. MHO

135 posted on 11/24/2023 3:58:00 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: steve86

Regarding insurance in general, claim denials are very often in error, though, and never in the policyholder’s favor. A certain amount of people will just pay, right or wrong, out of frustration with the bureaucracy.


136 posted on 11/24/2023 4:02:00 PM PST by gloryblaze
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To: steve86

you’re lucky, F nolonger exists...


137 posted on 11/24/2023 4:23:30 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Thanks. I am dreading the research- it’s so confusing. I don’t really have any peers to ask and have no idea where to find someone knowledgeable and reliable who isn’t a sales person. I just wish they’d give us the $ instead in something like the form of an HSA type card so I could continue to do WTF I want, when and where I want. I don’t even know if I’m on my husband’s plan if I still have to apply yet or not!! This is a PIA


138 posted on 11/24/2023 4:57:34 PM PST by dkGba
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To: steve86

One thing I forgot to mention, I am also receiving Entyvio infusions (had 3 so far), and I have not had to pay a penny for those, Thank God.


139 posted on 11/24/2023 5:02:16 PM PST by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: dkGba

Yes, it is an enormous PITA. The reason I decided on the Part G supplement was that I could always change to an Advantage plan later, but it’s not always possible to do the reverse, as another poster commented earlier.

You might be able to talk to someone at Medicare, too, not just insurance agents. Good luck.


140 posted on 11/24/2023 5:04:17 PM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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