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Who was Daniel Williams? Alabama prison inmate who died after 'two days of rape and torture'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ ^ | 14 November 2023 | EMMA SALETTA

Posted on 11/15/2023 7:13:59 AM PST by Jonty30

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To: Jan_Sobieski

20 years of service, never saw it male on male. I will tell you the population of black lesbians in the NAVY is out of this world high.


41 posted on 11/15/2023 8:32:13 AM PST by Mathews (I have faith Malachi is right!!! Any day now...)
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To: VTenigma

I don’t consider it just a fact. There is a culture in America which demands nonstop punishment as a means to teach criminals a lesson by subjecting them to ultimate punishments.

It’s also not Biblical, because the Bible demands punishments that fit the crime.

I thank you for clarifying that you’re not among those here who share the idea that prisons should be forever punishments.


42 posted on 11/15/2023 8:35:56 AM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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To: DeplorablePaul

“...Don’t they have regular prisoner counts?...”

and CCTV cameras???


43 posted on 11/15/2023 8:46:36 AM PST by elpadre
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To: Jonty30

Hard to reach a balance.


44 posted on 11/15/2023 8:50:34 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: Bon of Babble
look for these types. Bull queers, they take by force
45 posted on 11/15/2023 9:03:35 AM PST by shotgun
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To: Jonty30

That is so sad...and scary also for me as that facility is about 3 miles from my home. Every once in a while someone escapes so knowing that happened there makes that aspect scarier for me. Praying for the guys family...


46 posted on 11/15/2023 9:12:16 AM PST by BamaBelle
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To: Jonty30

I’ve known a few who have been in prison. One said he would kill himself rather than go back, and he was a martial arts expert!
Another spent his entire life warning his kids about going to prison.
The third did kill himself a few years after his release.

I had kin who was a guard at a prison. He said that after a short while the guards became just as hard core as the prisoners.


47 posted on 11/15/2023 9:37:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: VTenigma

What no one (that I noticed) has mentioned is the idea that incarceration has became big BUSINESS in the US.

I’d bet more than 1 company would riot against the idea of bringing back the lash or say pillory as being “Barbaric”. When in reality it’s a smokescreen and they know a 1-2 year prison sentence would earn them $$$$$$.

“What has happened over the last 10 years? Why are there so many prisoners?
“The private contracting of prisoners for work fosters incentives to lock people up. Prisons depend on this income. Corporate stockholders who make money off prisoners’ work lobby for longer sentences, in order to expand their workforce. The system feeds itself,” says a study by the Progressive Labor Party, which accuses the prison industry of being “an imitation of Nazi Germany with respect to forced slave labor and concentration camps.”
The prison industry complex is one of the fastest-growing industries in the United States and its investors are on Wall Street. “This multimillion-dollar industry has its own trade exhibitions, conventions, websites, and mail-order/Internet catalogs. It also has direct advertising campaigns, architecture companies, construction companies, investment houses on Wall Street, plumbing supply companies, food supply companies, armed security, and padded cells in a large variety of colors.”
According to the Left Business Observer, the federal prison industry produces 100% of all military helmets, ammunition belts, bullet-proof vests, ID tags, shirts, pants, tents, bags, and canteens. Along with war supplies, prison workers supply 98% of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93% of paints and paintbrushes; 92% of stove assembly; 46% of body armor; 36% of home appliances; 30% of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21% of office furniture. Airplane parts, medical supplies, and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people.”


48 posted on 11/15/2023 9:38:44 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Mathews

Back in 1966-1969 every year we got the “talk” on sodomy in the Military. Had to sign papers that we had the”talk”. Never saw a homo in the military back then although I did see a homo male whore on Okinawa. Never thought I would see the day but there he was! Gross!


49 posted on 11/15/2023 9:42:59 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Phoenix8

I don’t buy that the industrial incarceration complex is to blame. That’s a leftist talking point. Why do I say that? Look at the crime stats. IMHO many more need to be removed from society.


50 posted on 11/15/2023 9:45:09 AM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: VTenigma

While I agree the article is by leftists and their goal is different than ours (they are coming from the angle our system is unfairly targeting minorities etc with prison), it reminds me of an old saying:

Even a blind pig can sometimes find an acorn.

I think it’s a fact that incarceration has became a business, not sure you can disprove that no matter how much you don’t like it.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/624327/prison-costs-in-the-us-by-state/#:~:text=In%202020%2C%20the%20state%20government,most%20on%20corrections%20in%202020.

PS and I’m 💯 with you on certain group committing a disproportionate amount of our crime.


51 posted on 11/15/2023 9:51:30 AM PST by Phoenix8
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To: Jonty30

Somewhere I read he was in dormitory style lock up so you would think the guards would have noticed something. 3 days is a long time.


52 posted on 11/15/2023 10:11:56 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Blurb2350
This is a problem in many U.S. prisons, and — dirty little secret — it’s almost always black-on-white.

The prison officials who allowed this to happen need to go to prison themselves.

When someone is in state custody, the state has an obligation to protect them. The state should be held accountable for depraved heart murder.

We should absolutely not tolerate this stuff in prison.

53 posted on 11/15/2023 10:35:55 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Jonty30
One thing I do admit to is I think it’s a disgrace that America allows its prisons to become like this. A person should serve his time in relative peace. He’s been sentenced for his crimes and he shouldn’t be further punished just because he’s in prison.

Amen.

54 posted on 11/15/2023 10:36:29 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Phoenix8
Yes. I’ve heard rumors.

I find so many things about this country bass akwards so to say. For example we don’t give crime breakers the lash anymore because that’s cruel and unusual punishment but instead send them to an out of control prison with gay racist inmates who anally rape them, beat them, steal their food and generally make their lives a living hell.’

that is HUMANE??????

If this young man say bought or sold a small amount of drugs a lashing would be so much more appropriate. 12 lashes in public, his pain and humiliation will likely be enough he will never do it again. In a few days he would be back to work, still have his family and life.

We are becoming a crazy nation.

Agree with you on all points.

55 posted on 11/15/2023 10:38:19 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: VTenigma
Also I do know one thing. As a participant of the tea party march on Washington I considered going to Trump’s speech on the mall, but I never would have participated in entering the Capitol. Conservatives should have known better.

In today’s world people have to really weigh their choices and protect themselves from unintended bad outcomes.

We should also insist on justice and equal application of the law. Did all those people who broke into the Senate building to threaten Senators during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings go to jail? Did all those protestors that recently broke into congress a couple of weeks ago, go to jail?

Did any of the people involved in the riots of 2020 go to jail? They set fires to buildings, cars and what have you, but did any of them go to jail?

The Constitution forbids different standards of justice, but what we keep seeing is two different standards of law being applied to people.

56 posted on 11/15/2023 10:45:25 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Jonty30
This minor offendor should never have been thrown like candy to the bad guys. El Salvador's prison for the really bad guys (shocking pix):

El Salvador mega jail capable of holding 40,000 inmates in 32 'mass cells' - Is this the most hellish prison on earth?

57 posted on 11/15/2023 11:39:42 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Phoenix8

I never said I don’t like it. I agree there’s probably some component of that but the left uses that as a cudgel to promote their version of reality and make sure a large portion of those that should be removed never suffer those consequences.


58 posted on 11/15/2023 3:03:27 PM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: DiogenesLamp

All the more reason to have situational awareness and avoid those situations. The unfairness exists and I can’t change that. This country would be a much different place if I had a magic wand.


59 posted on 11/15/2023 3:06:25 PM PST by VTenigma (Conspiracy theory is the new "spoiler alert")
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To: moovova

Never steal, the government hates competition.🤔


60 posted on 11/15/2023 3:06:28 PM PST by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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