Weekly Garden Thread - October 28-November 3, 2023 [First Frost Edition]

To: Diana in Wisconsin

We got lucky to have no frost this morning, just chilly temps in the 40’s to start the day.

However, yesterday I wore short sleeves and shorts, and raked leaves for an hour. We had rain overnight, so now my yard is covered in leaves again! The chore seems never ending. It’s the down side of having a tree covered yard.

The leaves are still too wet to rake. On top of that, I have a few loose ends to take care of before going to a costume party tonight. Our costumes are nearly finished. I modify thrift store finds to keep the price down.

21 posted on 10/28/2023 9:11:15 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Snow alert in southern New Hampshire for Tuesday. Only dusting.

22 posted on 10/28/2023 9:27:23 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (“Who is John Galt?”)

To: Liz; Pete from Shawnee Mission

Pete I believe it was you who posted that recipe. I just copied it down do you have the text to repost to Liz? Liz this is awesome on any protein. I’ve had it on a burger, small steak, chicken. So Yummy and I froze in small containers.

23 posted on 10/28/2023 9:59:22 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Will probably rake up the paw paw leaves for the compost pile, they are very big leaves. Otherwise we just have mostly oak.

24 posted on 10/28/2023 10:02:02 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)

To: Diana in Wisconsin

Today is day 3 of waking to 12 degrees of frost. We didn’t have a hard frost (we had several nights that *just barely* hit freezing) until Wednesday, which hit 4 degrees of frost. Thursday, Friday and today are all 20* first thing in the morning.

We are supposed to warm back up again next week, but my poor sunflowers and marigolds are VERY unhappy. I won’t mention the begonias...

25 posted on 10/28/2023 10:06:51 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)

To: Diana in Wisconsin; Tilted Irish Kilt; MomwithHope

The winter vegetable list...Both linked articles missed Rutabaga! (So short informational "Spotlight on this Vegetable" post!)

A good winter vegetable! Beside mashing with potatoes butter and sour cream, you can slice this thin and into strips and use it as a vegetable noodle in soups in place of noodles. Adds sweetness to the soup. I suppose you could also spiralize it and do the same thing. (I am going to say that I am able to buy one at my local store for $2.98, about 2 lbs if you do not want to grow and store it.)

Rutabagas

"A biennial root vegetable, rutabagas are usually treated as annual crops generally planted in midsummer and allowed to mature in the cool weather of fall (or as a winter crop in warmer climates). They make a lovely autumn harvest vegetable after being “kissed” by a fall frost, which brings out a richer flavor."

Here is information from a European foundation that wants to encourage people to eat more vegetables!

Louis Bonduelle foundation-Rutabagas

"A vegetable that’s worth a new look"
"Famous for having prevented famine in times of war, today rutabagas are well-liked for their delicate flesh. Their fiber content contributes to regular bowel movements, and they are a natural diuretic. In addition, they are low in calories."

Oh My! There you go! A Euro website/foundation gets right to the point (you Old People!) Helps you pee, prevents famine and contributes to regular bowel movements! :o

More serious info:

"Rutabagas are also:
a source of potassium (for the nervous system, muscular function, and blood pressure)
a source of vitamin C (for the immune system, collagen formation, energy, the nervous system, iron absorption, and fatigue reduction)

They also contain:
vitamin B9 (folate)
vitamin B1
manganese
glucosinolates (cancer-fighting compounds)

and from : https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/rutabagas#TOC_TITLE_HDR_2

One medium rutabaga (386 grams) provides (1Trusted Source): Calories: 143 Carbs: 33 grams Protein: 4 grams Fat: 0.5 grams Fiber: 9 grams Vitamin C: 107% of the Daily Value (DV) Potassium: 35% of the DV Magnesium: 18% of the DV Calcium: 17% of the DV Vitamin E: 7% of the DV

As you can see, rutabagas are an excellent source of potassium, calcium, magnesium, and vitamins E and C. They also contain a moderate amount of folate, a B vitamin that’s important for metabolism, protein synthesis, and DNA replication (2Trusted Source).

Along with carrots and turnips and potatoes a good SHTF planting. (Plant a lot and feed the excess to any animals you might have!)

Varieties....Johnnies has Helenor and Laurentian. Seed Savers has a post that indicates they know about 81 varieties traded among their members, but lists for sale: Cairns, Westport Macomber, and Tipparary. Bakers Creek lists and Marian ( Marian...from Wales....Dedicated to the BVM???) Navone Yellow (Which I have) The grower reviews on Baker Creek have some very useful information about growing and vegetable quality.

Baker Creek Navone Yellow rutabaga

26 posted on 10/28/2023 10:10:02 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )

To: MomwithHope; Liz

I think this is the one, but there are other creamed shishito recipes out there.

Serious Eats Creamed Shishitos

Looks like it would go well spread on top of foccacia or pizza! (Things I am avoiding in my current low carb existance!)

(I have a bit of sun today and am off to rake and clean the garden!

27 posted on 10/28/2023 10:19:05 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )

To: Diana in Wisconsin

But no! You are still the goddess (no caps)! Even when you think you are wrong, you are right!

Rudbeckia hirta, commonly called black-eyed Susan, is a North American flowering plant in the family Asteraceae, native to Eastern and Central North America and naturalized in the Western part of the continent as well as in China. It has now been found in all 10 Canadian Provinces and all 48 of the states in the contiguous United States.[2][3][4]

Reward yourself with a chocolate bar!

28 posted on 10/28/2023 10:32:07 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission ( )

To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

29 posted on 10/28/2023 11:17:32 AM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)

To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Yes that is it. Thanks.

30 posted on 10/28/2023 11:53:15 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)

Yes good on just a slice of crusty bread. I get thin sliced sourdough. Spread a little on that and top with a thin slice of roast beef and its a great appetizer.

31 posted on 10/28/2023 11:55:53 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)

To: Diana in Wisconsin; All

In for a break (AC on, sitting in front of a fan). It’s 85 outside & quite warm. I’m getting in my exercise on the leaves.

Saw something on my weather app & looked at a full forecast .... the timing has shifted & while Monday may be cloudy, temps will still be around 80 & the rain won’t move in until evening. Tomorrow I will be gone all day so the pressure was on to get all the leaves up today, but it looks like Monday will work out if I don’t finish today. I still would like to do it all today & have Monday for mowing, etc.

32 posted on 10/28/2023 12:23:19 PM PDT by Qiviut (If the genocide were unintentional, they would have pulled the poison vaccines, long ago.)

To: Diana in Wisconsin

An important addition to the list is the many frost-tolerant varieties of Italian chicory, red, white or variously mottled. The flavour actually improves after exposure to frost, which moderates the natural bitterness. A wonderful resource at a time when fresh salad ingredients are hard to find. I’m particularly fond of salads based on various combinations of chicory and stored apples.
Don’t forget, also, that some herbs such as parsley are available in frost-tolerant varieties which not only survive but continue to produce new leaf in winter conditions.

33 posted on 10/28/2023 12:41:33 PM PDT by Winniesboy

To: goodnesswins

We’re supposed to have our first Frost this coming week. Looks like I have about five tomatoes with a little bit of orange in them, I’ll pick those since they will ripen inside. The green ones pretend to ripen but they never taste very good. And they are very odd color

I’ll pick and freeze the Bell peppers. Looks like I’ll get quite a few red ones, I gave them a lot of time to turn colors.

34 posted on 10/28/2023 12:53:14 PM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" – Mussolini)

To: Diana in Wisconsin

35 posted on 10/28/2023 12:53:50 PM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" – Mussolini)

Wow......sounds deelish.

36 posted on 10/28/2023 1:14:31 PM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)

Do you hang limbs of unripe tomatoes up to get them to ripen?

37 posted on 10/28/2023 1:34:15 PM PDT by goodnesswins ( We pretend to juvote and they pretend to count the votes.)

By early September we had grown and picked a ten gallon bucket’s worth of shishito peppers. I lightly sautéed - about a minutes worth or less - chopped ones in olive oil and froze in small baggies to add to meals. We ate lots of fresh in salads or charred on the grill. And after I had tons put away Pete posts this recipe so the rest of the pickings went into batches of this sauce. It was just in time and next year I am planning on putting up lots more this way. Even good on eggs. I started seeing bags of shishitos in the grocery store last year. So they are around.

38 posted on 10/28/2023 2:23:27 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)

Ten gallons of garden grown shishitos......sheer heaven.

39 posted on 10/28/2023 2:31:56 PM PDT by Liz (“The only time Biden gets his hands dirty is when he’s taking cash from foreign countries." Trump)

To: goodnesswins

no, will that work better?

I’ve been putting them in the basement in a single layer.

40 posted on 10/28/2023 2:47:38 PM PDT by CottonBall (“Fascism should be called corporatism because it is a merger of state & corporate power" – Mussolini)

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