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To: Red Badger

It’s possible that it was so traumatic when it happened he seriously has no memory of pulling the trigger. I really don’t think that he was intending to murder his friend. If someone was going to murder someone they wouldn’t do it in front of everyone and the camera was probably rolling. Total setup or someone, the girl in charge of the props maybe, had not checked the prop gun.

I know, he was supposed to look in the gun himself and he didn’t but that doesn’t mean he is a murderer. He is very much in trouble but I think it’s very likely he does not remember pulling the trigger.


12 posted on 10/18/2023 8:08:55 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

It was a real gun, not a prop.

The set armorer did not check the weapon and clear it for set use AFTER some of the crew had loaded real ammo and fired it at some cans and bottles off the set. There was still a real round in the weapon, which Baldwin assumed was unloaded and safety checked........................


13 posted on 10/18/2023 8:12:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Beowulf9

If only people who didn’t intend harm, perhaps by strolling through a door that was opened for them, got leniency because of a lack of intent.


15 posted on 10/18/2023 8:16:06 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Beowulf9

that doesn’t mean he is a murderer.

He's never been charged with murder, and won't be.

20 posted on 10/18/2023 8:24:50 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Beowulf9

Of course he didn’t intend it, that is why the charges are involuntary manslaughter not first degree murder. Baldwin was engaging in an act that was grossly dangerous or negligent, killing someone in the process. No different than firing a gun in the dark, hitting and killing an unseen passerby. Whether he remembers it or not is irrelevant.


25 posted on 10/18/2023 8:36:21 AM PDT by erlayman (E )
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To: Beowulf9

The charge isn’t murder- it should be reckless homicide- Negligence etc-


40 posted on 10/18/2023 9:12:51 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Beowulf9
I really don’t think that he was intending to murder his friend.

Where are you getting this? The article says nothing about murder, and intent has nothing to do with it (with the exception of the word "involuntary"). There are quite a few people in prison right now who never intended to end the life of anyone.

This is not complicated. If you play a stupid game and win a stupid prize it is on you. If you play a stupid game and the stupid prize is forced onto someone else, it is still on you.

I hope he does time.

44 posted on 10/18/2023 9:20:10 AM PDT by 70times7
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To: Beowulf9

Is there a difference between “accident” and “negligent”. I think so. Because Alec didn’t personally inspect the firearm, he’s ultimately responsible to his own negligence.


54 posted on 10/18/2023 9:53:37 AM PDT by Extra-Ordinary Objectives (My preferred pronouns are intuitively obvious to the most casual observer.)
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