Posted on 09/24/2023 10:21:05 PM PDT by fireman15
im gonna wait until they are giving them away
and then i will say
no thanks
That was a very wise decision on your part. The batteries do not last forever especially if you frequently charge it beyond 80% or discharge it to less than 20%. Without the warranty by the time your battery has gone tits up it would likely not be worth replacing.
With a used gas car you can repair an engine but not an electric battery powered one. You would wonder if that electric car will explode in flames just sitting there in your garage or while driving. Bad enough worry when brand new!
Then there’s THIS:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4184721/posts
And the older the battery is, the more likely it’s going to set itself on fire.
I am so happy I got rid of my hybrid a couple months ago, at the time they gave me more in trade than I paid for it.
Amazing the work you did. My ‘98 Taco was knocking a few years ago so I, without knowing what the hell I was doing, poured some kind of liquid metal in a can I had onto one of the broken spark plug harness wires that attached to the spark plug within the engine block. The old plug had been frozen in there and I had broken the harness in the process of replacing the plug. Then I replaced all four of the garden variety plugs that were in there, with dual element ones. When I hit the ignition the engine ran like a freaking Swiss watch. And the improved acceleration is still to this day not to be believed. Serendipitous I guess, since I have no auto repair experience whatsoever. I mean that. Kudos to you who do.
The people I know who bought the first EV's now have internal combustion cars and only a golf carts with a lithium batteries...
There are use cases that make sense. The problem we have is that Democrats are using the EPA to jam them down everyone’s throat, free market be damned, in what will become a central planning nightmare if allowed to continue.
I was just throwing numbers out there as an example. Your mileage may vary, of course. My point, though, was that the typical car buyer has enough experience with gasoline-powered cars to have at least a rough idea how to value used cars. With EVs, it’s more like a black box. Few really have a grasp of how long EV batteries will last or how much repairs/replacement will cost
At this point, given the horrible car market, if my car’s transmission is shot, I’ll just fork over the 3 to 4 k, because that’s much better than selling the house to replace a vehicle.
I have the car I need and like. But if someone gave me $30000 that I had to spend on an automobile. I would buy a plug-in hybrid. These have smaller and lighter batteries. Smaller ranges on electric. 40-100 miles.
With these you do not need to buy a $2000 home charging station. Instead, you plug it into a 220 volt outlet at night and whenever you are home. This 70 mile range will get you around town and to your job. And you always have your gasoline powered engine in reserve and for long trips.
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I payed $3,200 for my 1997 ford ranger ten years ago. Runs like a top, i can do most upkeep myself. I think i’ll keep it.
We simply live is stupid times.
This is no different than someone stealing your wallet or your car. These people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law (which, unfortunately, doesn't appear to be much these days..).
you plug it into a 220 volt outlet at night
How many of those do you have? I only have 2. One for the stove and one for the dryer.
“who faked a limp”
Nice detail. How do you know he faked a limp? It would have been a clue to doubt the veracity of the used car dealer. I think the credibility of used car salesmen has climbed above congressmen and journalists though.
It depends on the EV model. Tesla battery replacements are way more expensive than with Kia/Hyundai EV’s batteries.
For me the decision to make one of our cars an EV came down to these points:
It was time last year to replace my wife’s car anyway.
Having one ICE car and one EV gives our long distance driving some energy security in that if the Dims mess up gas supply we can do our driving in the EV. If they mess up power supply we can do our driving in the ICE pickup. Currently gas prices are too darn high so we do most of our driving in the EV (26K miles per year).
We have further energy security by having lots of solar. I simply can’t drill and refine oil on my own to fuel my ICE pickup. But I supply 82% of the power we need through solar, including charging the EV for about 22K to 23K miles per year that are charged at home.
A waste of time and resources.
You haven't gone used-car shopping lately, have you?
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