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Vacation For Me, Not For Thee: European Workers' Hard-Won Summer Vacation Tradition Is Slowly Being Taken Away
Naked Capitalism ^ | 08/15/2023 | Conor Gallagher

Posted on 08/15/2023 6:49:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Allegra

Month long summer vacations only work if a lot of people keep working.

All the hospitality and transportation industries. Medical and dental stay going. Law enforcement. Emergency services.


41 posted on 08/15/2023 9:03:38 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: EEGator

I have little doubt that the founders toiled harder than we do, and more physically.

Work is a high calling and lying around blaming The Man for your problems is not.

We are not a slave state. Employment is entered into voluntarily here. You have agency. Work hard, leave when appropriate, train up, leverage yourself. Don’t be a de facto welfare queen. Phoning in the bare minimum and claiming virtue is not becoming.


42 posted on 08/15/2023 9:07:32 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: cgbg

Good point.

And I’ve been in both situations. But even when I’ve had those situations where it was a pleasure to go to work, I still needed my disconnect time and never felt that extra hours put in were something to brag about to others.

One of the braggadocios I know (and oh, he goes on about working on weekends, etc.) does very little real work. He’s been at the company for over 30 years and it’s his social life.


43 posted on 08/15/2023 9:10:53 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: SeekAndFind
Imagine how high EU nations' costs of living would be if they had to pay for their own defense, instead of sloughing it off onto the backs of American taxpayers.
44 posted on 08/15/2023 9:17:01 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Persevero

You know I don’t care what you think, and yet here we are.

I’ll continue making 6 figures working about 40% of my billable hours.
I’m still more productive than the minorities and females that don’t deserve the position in the first place.

Repeal the 19th Amendment.


45 posted on 08/15/2023 9:18:08 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Persevero
Month long summer vacations only work if a lot of people keep working.

True. It was primarily manufacturing and associated office workers that got the August shutdown, along with a lot of “non-essential” government employees. Even on the NATO base where my dad was stationed, they got “summer hours,” meaning their workday stopped at 1:00 p.m. in July and August. The top brass encouraged this, so my dad took off and joined us at beach or pool when his workload permitted. It wasn’t every day, but a couple of times a week he could take advantage of that.

46 posted on 08/15/2023 9:19:43 AM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: EEGator

Ironically I would vote to repeal the 19th.

As a young man you should maximize your good influence and output whether through money earning work or volunteer activity that builds the nation, the family, the church - but your attitude is crippling you. I am glad you do what you do but that “make me, I’m not your slave” is a serious flaw that infects others as you already claim to do.

Absolutely do not be a workaholic. Recreation is an important part of life. But hard work is not slavery.

Others can take dominion if you refuse. Your loss but it is a shame.


47 posted on 08/15/2023 9:25:55 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

My industry is a regulated monopoly, so there’s only one game in town.

I only work for the paycheck. I put my effort and heart into my personal pursuits.

My church and country are dying. I help fellow white men and women.


48 posted on 08/15/2023 9:31:10 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: SeekAndFind
Alligator tears. My last "proper" vacation occurred in April 1999 before moving to Idaho. A week in Wales. The last time I even took 5 consecutive days off was in December 2001. I always keep my PTO balance close to the 400 hours allowed on the books as backstop for work stoppage caused by government contracting FUBARs. My pack of pups can tolerate a few hours alone while my wife and I venture to Idaho Falls. No more overnight or longer trips as the pet care can't be deferred that long.

Both of us are anticipating retirement this year. It won't be the start of globe trotting vacations. It will be the start of lots of deferred maintenance around the household.

49 posted on 08/15/2023 9:36:02 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Sirius Lee

>The problem with voting for a worker’s paradise is that you just end up a work slave, owning nothing, which makes the Neo-feudalists happy.

Yep. If someone compares their work burden to a medieval serf:
- Not working on 52 Sundays
- Not working on (approx.)45 Christian feast days (although some of those might or always fall on a Sunday, and some such holidays were extended periods, like Christmas)
- Work was hard but seasonal and involved breaks and leave days
(ref. https://curioushistorian.com/why-medieval-serfs-had-more-vacation-time-than-you-do-today)
- Taxation varied, but usually a small land rent and some combination of portion-of-crops, work days on lord’s land, or remuneration in lieu of those — generally maxing out at around 33% in toto.

Today, after
- 15.3% FICA (both halves — employees don’t think ‘the man’ is absorbing it, that’s money you aren’t getting)
- 10% to 35% federal income tax
- 0% to 13.3% state income tax
- possibly local income taxes

you can then take what’s left and *then* pay property tax, sales tax, gasoline taxes, and a litany of other money grabs at any activity you dare undertake.

For this existence your modern salaryman rests, if not being asked to grind a bit more this weekend/month/year, or ‘expected’ to do it in order to advance or keep a position
- 104 weekend days
- 15-25 vacation days
- 6 (possibly more) government holiday days

... so if your effective tax and working hours are worse than a serf, what does that make you? (Doubly so if you’re doing it to yourself — huzzah entrepreneurship, but most of what you do goes into parasites’ pockets to buy votes and power and do things entirely contrary to your principles)


50 posted on 08/15/2023 10:38:53 AM PDT by No.6
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To: EEGator

“The Bible is a book by men, not God.”

Sorry you feel that way. That mentality ends with a few elites stomping on everyone’s face. If there is no truth, everything becomes only a power struggle, and quite often the scum prevail.


51 posted on 08/15/2023 10:52:56 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: MDLION

I didn’t say there’s no truth, nor did I say I don’t believe in God.

Pointing to the Bible while talking about paid vacations is just stupid.
I didn’t bring it up.


52 posted on 08/15/2023 10:54:51 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Nothing wrong with working for the paycheck. That’s the deal.

Glad to know you put effort elsewhere as well.


53 posted on 08/15/2023 10:59:35 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

I’ll never give up on myself, just society in general. There’s still plenty of individuals to link up with and care about.

I truly understand a quote I read some years ago. I think it was Mark Twain.
A cynic is just a crushed idealist.


54 posted on 08/15/2023 11:04:44 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: MDLION

But the end of saying “The Bible is a book by men, not God.” is a relativistic power struggle which ends in a survival of the fittest. We cannot let the Bible’s influence in our nation, its influence on our Declaration, Constitution or founding be marginalized/sidelined, or it’s off to the concentration camps we go. We might end up there anyway the way things are going but we must point to the Bible in speaking of truth, the natural law and authentic rights. Even President Kennedy said: “The rights of man come from God, not the State.” The attempt to imprison Trump for life for daring to challenge the system is a preview of what is probably coming.


55 posted on 08/15/2023 11:29:02 AM PDT by MDLION ("Trust in the Lord with all your heart" -Proverbs 3:5)
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To: EEGator

You seem to have sort of two philosophies going. I hope the best one wins.

Cynicism will not serve you well. Realism will. But not cynicism.


56 posted on 08/15/2023 11:40:21 AM PDT by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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