Evidence the universe might not be expanding - Could we be wrong about everything?

IAI News ^ | 25 Jul, 2023 | Tim Andersen

[chiller]

.."expand forever or eventually collapse due to gravity."

....only to explode again sending all elements on their merry way to continue the cycle.

[DesertRhino]

And there is an astonishing amount we do not know about Hubble’s work. After he died, his wife went through his massive notes and writings, and burned the ones she thought were not appropriate or might embarrass him. God only knows what work she destroyed.

[DesertRhino]

You win the day. It’s not a flat earth... it’s a flat universe. LOL

[DesertRhino]

“Any group that relies on “matter” that cannot be detected except by it’s gravitational effect to make it’s theories work is not a group that can be taken seriously.”

I seem to remember something about a king, and his invisible clothing.

[MtnClimber]

With the red shift of light, the distance of galaxies vs red shift (indicated velocity away from us) is a straight line for galaxy distance when using other methods of measuring distance like brightness of standard brightness star types.

But, if there is light amplitude and frequency loss with distance then standard star brightness and doppler shift could cause errors.

[Be Free]

If the universe is everything (every single thing), then what is it expanding into? Maybe it is just one, giant Möbius loop? No beginning, no end, no boundaries.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

It's not so much what you don't know that will get you in trouble. It's what you know that ain't so.

~ Mark Twain

[enumerated]

I knew it!

[Boogieman]

Just about every possible alternative has already been ruled out. The atheist/materialists were desperate to find an alternative but they have consistently been stymied by experimental results, or mathematical and metaphysical impossibilities that arise from other theories.

[Boogieman]

“Gravity stretches and compresses space/time”

No, matter distorts spacetime (really I think it’s just the time component that is distorted, because distorting space is nonsensical), and that distortion creates the effect we call “gravity”.

[EEGator]

Aren’t dark matter and dark energy completely theoretical to fit equations?

I think we’re in The Matrix…

[Sirius Lee]

[MtnClimber]

Aren’t dark matter and dark energy completely theoretical to fit equations?

Dark energy is theoretical to fit the rotational speed of galaxies, the gravitational bending of light around galaxies and galaxy clusters and the estimated expansion rate of the universe. I don't know if it is something real or something we don't understand yet.

[metmom]

They’re likely wrong about everything.

They get a little knowledge, make up a theory to explain it, and don’t even have a clue what reality is. It’s all posturing.

[Vaduz]

If you don’t get the Nobel Prize I’m sure the media is willing to offer you a job.

Good luck

[Recompennation]

So what about (dark matter)? This was the fudge factor that they added in to maintain their model? Is it gone now too?

[Noumenon]

Clamosaurs and oysterettes collided in the dense gas.

[MtnClimber]

There is no replacement for dark matter to make the models work. There has to be a link between dark energy and unicorn energy in the greenie “science”.

[Recompennation]

The link is the difference in old fashion real science and the tingle leg agenda driven left rotation fake news science that gets out today thanks to a reward punishment system installed and fostered by the wrong think (do gooder), for themselves, liberals who attempt take over of our world.

[PIF]

Evidence the universe might not be expanding - Could we be wrong about everything?
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the first supposition might be true or might not, the second supposition is definitely true.