The Battle of Gettysburg & the Big Lie of ‘It’s never been this bad’

I was responding to your claim that Lee (and the rest, I suppose) were at war with the Constitution. Since the Constitution functions as a constraint on government, it is rather hard for individual people to violate it, excepting the one individual who happens to be head of state.

Firing on Ft. Sumter and of course, prior events such as “Bleeding Kansas’’, are what bought about this nations bloodiest war.

I get a kick out of all of the fake outrage over a bloodless "battle". The leftist view of history is always dominated by sickeningly insincere interpretation and reaction. The firing on Sumter was never more than the staged propaganda gambit it was engineered to be. Lincoln's people swiped the plan straight from the playbook of dirty schemes that the US had just been using against Japan.

Your understanding of the Bleeding Kansas crisis is 180 degrees out of phase with reality. It was Northerners who were recruiting, funding, and arming private armies to wage an unofficial war on the very Southerners who had originally trail-blazed, pioneered, and settled the mid-west. The Ohio River valley and everything west of it was originally within Virginia's domain, and the rest of it was bundled up in the Louisiana Purchase (about which Northerners still bitch today). Southerners were establishing American presence there while Yankee culture was still Jihading its way through the "burned over" district, trying to breakout from behind the Great Lakes barrier.

Blood less? No one was killed in the initial bombardment but it lead to the worst slaughter in US history. And no Lincoln didn’t swipe anything from a ‘’’dirty playbook’’. he sent a merchant ship to resupply a federal installation. And Bleeding Kanasas is a 180?

Like hell it is, your Border Ruffians did a great job on Lawrence, didn’t they?

And to be fair John Browns retaliation for that was no better.

I’ve been round and round with you Rebs and your versions of “The War Of Northern Aggression’’ a zillion times and try as you guys might you can’t change the fact the Confederacy fought to preserve slavery.

Nothing will change that. Certainly not your revisionist “Lost Cause’’ history.

Certainly Lincoln didn't want revenge, the nation wouldn't have stood for it and there was no need for it.

Americans were tired of the slaughter and compassion and more to the point political expediency compelled Lincoln to ''Let them up easy'' as he said to Grant prior to the meeting at Appomattox. If there were a ''villain'' in all this it would have had to have been Edward M. Stanton, the Secretary of War. That guy had the mad on for hanging Davis and any other Confederate politician he could.

—” That guy had the mad on for hanging Davis and any other Confederate politician he could.”

While at Appomattox and talking with a family next to us, they said they lived in the next county. I asked if they visited often, “No, Never before!” And mentioned that their grandparents and others in the area did NOT celebrate the 4th of July.

“Everyone holds a piece of the truth.”
Gandhi

Like hell it is, your Border Ruffians did a great job on Lawrence, didn’t they?

This is exactly the sort of jaundiced view that I'm talking about. Lawrence was retaliation for a prior attack on Osceola. Unlike Osceola, Lawrence was a garrison town and a legitimate military target. The folks from the Osceola surrounds were righteous in their vengeance.

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