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Roger Waters Wins Legal Battle to Play Frankfurt Concert
NME ^ | 25th April 2023 | Damian Jones

Posted on 04/25/2023 3:04:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The show was originally cancelled over anti-Semitism claims

Roger Waters has won a legal battle to play a forthcoming concert in Frankfurt after it was initially cancelled over claims of anti-Semitism.

The former Pink Floyd frontman was supposed to play at the publicly owned Festhalle on May 28, but Frankfurt City Council called off the performance over the musician’s views on Israel. They later described him as “one of the world’s most widely-known anti-Semites”.

Despite the cancellation, Waters suggested earlier this month he’s “coming anyway” in an update on Instagram update alongside a photo of the grave of Sophie Scholl, a German student and anti-Nazi activist who was beheaded via guillotine in 1943 for distributing anti-war leaflets around the University of Munich.

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The post also suggested that Waters had filed an injunction against the council but has not had a response. He had previously indicated that he could take legal action against the motion to cancel his performances, which he argued was “unjustifiable” and an attempt to “silence him”.

Now, Frankfurt’s administrative court has ruled that Waters can go ahead with the concert.

Roger Waters performs live. CREDIT: Gennady Avramenko/ Epsilon/Getty Images

While acknowledging that aspects of his show were “tasteless” and obviously lent on symbolism inspired by the Nazi regime, it cited artistic freedom among its main reasons for the decision, reports The Guardian.

City authorities in Frankfurt and elsewhere in Germany had objected to the concert on the grounds that a previous tour had featured as part of the stage show a balloon shaped like a pig depicting the Star of David and various company logos.

Part of their criticism related to the location of the concert in which during the November pogroms of 1938, more than 3,000 Jewish men from Frankfurt and surrounding areas were rounded up, abused and later deported to concentration camps where many of them were murdered.

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But the court said that despite his show making use of “symbolism manifestly based on that of the National Socialist regime”, the tastelessness of which it said was exacerbated by the choice of the Festhalle as the venue due to its historical background, the concert should be “viewed as a work of art” and that there were not sufficient grounds on which to justify banning Waters from performing.

The most crucial point, according to the court, was that the musician’s performance “did not glorify or relativise the crimes of the Nazis or identify with Nazi racist ideology”, and nor was there any evidence that Waters used propaganda material in his show.

The city has the right to appeal the decision.

A petition was launched last month to reverse the decision made by Frankfurt City Council, which was signed by the likes of Eric Clapton, Rage Against The Machine‘s Tom Morello and Pink Floyd’s own Nick Mason.

“Waters’ criticism of Israel’s treatment of Palestinians is part of his long-term advocacy on behalf of human rights across the globe,” read the description alongside the petition. “The officials vilifying Waters are engaging in a dangerous campaign that purposely conflates criticism of Israel’s illegal and unjust policies with anti-Semitism.”

It continued: “Officials in Germany, concert organisers, and music platforms must not succumb to the pressure of those individuals and groups who would rather see Waters’ music removed than engage with the issues his music highlights.”

Waters has repeatedly denied accusations of antisemitism and claimed his disdain is towards Israel, not Judaism, accusing Israel of “abusing the term antisemitism to intimidate people like me into silence”.

He has previously defended his use of the pig symbol, saying it “represents Israel and its policies and is legitimately subject to any and all forms of non-violent protest”. He said the balloon also featured other symbols of organisations he was against, such as the crucifix and the logos of Mercedes, McDonald’s and Shell Oil.

A second petition was also launched online, opposing the first.

Last month, Waters kicked off the European leg of his ‘This Is Not A Drill’ farewell tour. He will then come to the UK from May 31, with stops in Birmingham, Glasgow, London and Manchester.


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; germany; gettherope; israel; jewish; music; nazi; nazimusic; palestinian; pinkfloyd; rogerwaters; thewall; waronterror

1 posted on 04/25/2023 3:04:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Wow so considering the legal environment of the day should he sue for defamation?


2 posted on 04/25/2023 3:19:43 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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To: nickcarraway

With Waters, you see, you have to look into the symbolism of things.

Shell Oil, for instance?

Surely Waters is also against the heavily taxpayer-subsidized wind farms they are wholly invested in, which explains the wind turbine “Mercedes logos.”


3 posted on 04/25/2023 3:20:57 PM PDT by golux
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To: nickcarraway

Is David Gilmour going to play his bass parts for him like usual?


4 posted on 04/25/2023 3:24:32 PM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1 ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Let him play. The world needs to hear him.


5 posted on 04/25/2023 3:32:29 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: nickcarraway
Makes sense.

I would need to be court ordered to attend a Roger Waters concert.

6 posted on 04/25/2023 3:56:49 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: nickcarraway

And now less than $425 to reach 27% in our freepathon!
04/25/23 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 4/25/2023, 2:17:21 PM by Jim Robinson

Let’s get ‘er done!


7 posted on 04/25/2023 4:20:59 PM PDT by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: nickcarraway

People who opposed the COVID vaccine have been routinely labeled or accused of being Anti-Semitic.

Someone will end up suing the defamers who make these false accusations sooner or later.


8 posted on 04/25/2023 4:51:39 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Seruzawa
The other antisemite, Richard Wagner, was much better. We do not need to hear another crappy rockstar.

Rock music is mostly garbage anyway. Rap is not music at all.

9 posted on 04/25/2023 5:03:44 PM PDT by Stepan12 ("...To the American gulag with this guy.and with the beasts of the earth.")
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To: All
Nazi Roger Waters - As a SS soldier


Anti Ttump since 2017


Former Pink Floyd Lyricist Polly Samson — and Her Husband, David Gilmour, Emphatically Agrees: "Roger Waters Is ‘Antisemitic to Rotten Core.'
Variety, Feb 2023

Roger Waters: A Hypocrite and anti-Semite
Under the 3D Test, Waters qualifies as an anti-Semite.
August 14, 2017 by Joseph Puder

Rock and Roll “artist” Roger Waters is set to perform this week in Philadelphia at the Wells-Fargo Center. Along with his usual repertoire, known from his days with the rock band Pink Floyd, he may offer his poisonous “human rights” catalog of bigoted and downright anti-Semitic rhetoric. Waters, 73, has singled out the Jewish state in his alleged concern for human rights, out of 196 nation-states. The only people he seems to be rallying for are the Palestinian-Arabs.

In a press release issued by StandWithUs (SWU), an International Israel educational organization, it states that “Roger Waters has a history of blaming only the State of Israel for the lack of peace. He supports the boycott campaign against Israel, which does not promote peace, does not create a better life for Palestinians, and whose agenda is the destruction of the State of Israel. He has even flown a helium pig with a Star of David on it during his concerts. Waters claims to be against all forms of injustice, but where is his outrage at the Palestinian Authority which incentivizes murder of Israeli civilians by paying subsidies to terrorists in Israeli jails and their families? StandWithUs is sending a clear message to Waters that his double standard, hatred and lies against Israel will not go unanswered.”

Waters addressed the United Nations General Assembly on November 29, 2012, on behalf of the Russell Tribunal on Palestine, ironically on the same date (November 29), when 65-years earlier, the Palestinian-Arabs rejected the UN resolution that would have given them a state of their own. The Palestinian-Arabs preferred instead to join with the surrounding Arab states to annihilate the newborn state of Israel, and throw the Jews into the sea. This came two years after WWII ended, in which Six Million Jews were murdered in Europe, known as the Holocaust.

In his address, Waters accused Israel of Apartheid, claiming that “The UN’s International Covenant on the Suppression and Punishment of the Crime of Apartheid, defines that crime as inhuman acts by any government that are ‘committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial groups of persons and systematically oppressing them.’ As you all know, the prohibited acts include arbitrary arrest, legislative measures that discriminate in the political, social, economic and cultural fields; measures that divide the population along racial lines, and the persecution of those opposed to the system of apartheid.”

What has eluded Waters are the historical facts about Arab and Palestinian aggression, terrorism, intolerance and the rejection of Jewish rights anywhere in historical Palestine. Israel didn’t seek to “dominate” the Palestinian-Arabs. Israel fought defensive wars in both 1948 and 1967. In 1948, against huge odds, it defeated the armies of five Arab states and Palestinian-Arab irregulars. The Arab minority in Israel, though largely disloyal to the Jewish state, enjoys the same freedoms as Israeli Jews, including religious freedom, human and civil rights, and the Rule-of-Law.

As a result of King Hussein’s decision to attack Israel in June, 1967, despite pleas by Israel to stay out of the conflict, Israel was able to defeat the Jordanian army and capture Jerusalem, including the Jewish Quarter and Judea and Samaria (West Bank). Jordan annexed the West Bank illegally following the 1948 war. The Palestinian-Arabs were living under Jordanian Arab dominion, but they never sought self-determination and an independent Palestinian state. Israel agreed to UNSC resolution 242, which didn’t mention the Palestinians, but arrived at the formula of territory for peace. In other words, if the Arab states made peace with Israel, Israel would return ‘territories,’ albeit not ‘all’ the territories. When Egypt made peace with Israel, it received back all of the Sinai. Likewise, Jordan, received its claims after signing the peace agreement.

Arafat signed the Oslo Accords on the White House lawn on behalf of the Palestinians, only to initiate the bloody second intifada immediately after the July, 2000 summit with President Clinton and Prime Minister Barak. Arafat could have brought peace and Palestinian statehood then, had he agreed to end all claims, after the US and Israel promised to provide the Palestinians with 95% of the West Bank and Gaza. Arafat wouldn’t accept the deal, not because it was unfair, but because of religious reasons having to do with recognizing Jewish sovereignty in any part of historic Palestine. He also feared that peace with Israel would end his life by an assassin’s bullet as it did Anwar Sadat’s.

When Roger Waters speaks about arbitrary arrests and apartheid, he should first examine Hamas in Gaza and the Palestinian Authority in Ramallah. Intolerance of Jews, and laws that proscribe Jews from living in Jordan, Saudi Arabia or the Palestinian controlled territories are indeed Apartheid laws. Conversely, Israel is an open, democratic society, which at great expense and governed by moral ideals, brought tens of thousands of black Ethiopians to Israel. Unlike the persecuting Egyptian authorities, Israel received Black Africans from Sudan and Eritrea, providing them with humanitarian aid and sustenance.

If Waters cared for universal human rights as he claims, why has he not demanded Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) on the Iranian regime that hangs teenagers, suppresses religious freedom, persecutes minorities, and kills opponents of the regime? How about Turkey’s Erdogan, and his killing of Kurds, his imprisoning 50,000 fellow Turks on trumped up charges, and his general autocratic rule. One can go on and on, wondering why of all the global oppressive regimes, such as China, Cuba, Sudan, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, and the Arab states, Waters would single out the only democracy in the Middle East.

He accuses Israel of “ethnic cleansing” and “collective punishment,” pointing out the eviction of Palestinian-Arabs in 1947-48 was ethnic cleansing. If that is the case, how come Israel’s population is over 20% Arab? Yet, the native Jewish population in the Arab states is at zero percent, because the Arabs have indeed practiced ethnic cleansing of Jewish populations. Palestinians, as well, do not accept Jews living in their midst as equal citizens, nor is there a single Jew living in Gaza or Ramallah. Waters’ native Britain employed the so-called “collective punishment” that he mentioned. It did so to punish murderous terrorists during the Arab Revolt of 1936-39. Israel punishes murderous terrorists by blowing up the home of the terrorist families as a deterrent. Israel, in its Gaza operations, responding to Hamas’ rocket attacks, targeted only combatants, not civilians, as Hamas did. Israel sacrificed its soldiers in order to avoid civilian casualties. It spread fliers to warn civilians of an impending attack, something that no other army but the Israel Defense Forces has done, as testified by British army Colonel Richard Kemp, former commander of British forces in Afghanistan.

Waters’ father died as a British soldier fighting the Nazis in Italy. Yet, the Palestinians, on whose behalf Waters advocates, were allied with the Nazis. The Palestinian leader Haj Amin al-Husseini, was Hitler’s guest in Berlin and advocated a more expedited “Final Solution of the Jewish Question.” Waters’ father would be ashamed of his son’s ignorance of history, his hypocrisy and anti-Israeli (the Jewish Brigade comprised of Palestinian Jews, also fought alongside the British and died in Italy during WWII) bigotry.

Nathan Sharansky, former prisoner of conscience in a Soviet gulag, and author of The Case for Democracy, devised a formula by which to distinguish honest critics of Israel from anti-Semites. He named it the 3D test for Demonization, Double standard, and Delegitimization of Israel. Under this test, Waters qualifies as an anti-Semite.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/roger-waters-hypocrite-and-anti-semite-joseph-puder/

10 posted on 05/24/2023 7:58:34 PM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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Rejecting Roger Waters message of hate (Aug 2017)
...Waters likes to claim he is a forceful advocate for human rights and that he opposes the Israeli occupation and Israeli government policies. But this is far from the case.

At past concerts Waters has displayed a huge inflatable pig descending from the rafters and emblazoned with the Star of David, and dollar signs with images of Nazi swastikas projected on background screens. This is nasty stuff.

If you want to complain about an Israeli government policy or practice, well, write a letter to the prime minister. But no, Waters’ actions are reduced to the lowest common denominator — a purveyor of hatred and bigotry. Just shameful.
https://issuu.com/jewishobserver/docs/observer8-2017-web/2


11 posted on 05/25/2023 3:46:45 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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