Posted on 03/12/2023 6:16:24 AM PDT by fluorescence
The week of last Thanksgiving, Michael Larkin, a business owner in Hamilton, Ohio, picked up his phone and answered a call. It was the local police, and they wanted footage from Larkin’s front door camera.
Larkin had a Ring video doorbell, one of the more than 10 million Americans with the Amazon-owned product installed at their front doors. His doorbell was among 21 Ring cameras in and around his home and business, picking up footage of Larkin, neighbors, customers and anyone else near his house.
The police said they were conducting a drug-related investigation on a neighbor, and they wanted videos of “suspicious activity” between 5 and 7 p.m. one night in October. Larkin cooperated, and sent clips of a car that drove by his Ring camera more than 12 times in that time frame.
He thought that was all the police would need. Instead, it was just the beginning.
They asked for more footage, now from the entire day’s worth of records. And a week later, Larkin received a notice from Ring itself: The company had received a warrant, signed by a local judge. The notice informed him it was obligated to send footage from more than 20 cameras — whether or not Larkin was willing to share it himself.
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This time, Larkin wasn’t able to choose which cameras he could send videos from. The warrant included all five of his outdoor cameras, and also added a sixth camera that was inside his house, as well as any videos from cameras associated with his account, which would include the cameras in his store. It would include footage recorded from cameras he had in his living room and bedroom, as well as the 13 cameras he had installed at his store associated with his account.
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simple. delete your old videos at least weekly. its 2 clicks
In the future, you will own nothing, you will spy on yourself, and you will be happy.
Simple solution.
Don’t have a Ring doorbell.
That’s what happens when you buy convenience. It spies to be convenient and help you out and them out.
So you don’t really own it — you just install and maintain the devices on your property.
Is it really gone if you delete it? Could s forensic analysis recover it?
I don’t see a problem.
Give the cops the videos they need to convict a drug dealing neighbor.
Can you say “Obama?”
Not that OUR government would ever illegally surveil it’s citizens . . .
I get requesting an expanded time frame from the pertinent angle, but video from all cameras, which includes those not facing the area of interest along with those inside the house, is going too far.
The more this happens the more likely I will not cooperate with law enforcement on anything. I take the 5th.
who knows i dont pay for storage. and im also not stupid enough to have cameras in my house, much less my bedroom. And im sure my fbi handler has enough to do with my FR account.
For all you know it just changes a setting so that you’re the only one who can’t see it.
“That’s what happens when you buy convenience. It spies to be convenient and help you out and them out.”
Same with your cell phone. It spies on you constantly, and can be activated remotely without your knowledge.
Big Brother is watching you!
“Don’t have a Ring doorbell.”
They’re good security. They’ll ping your phone as someone approaches one your doors, even before they get to the door.
My sister was alone upstairs when her Ring on the backdoor pinged her. She saw a stranger standing at the back door on her phone. He was just testing doors in the neighborhood to see if they were locked. Her door was locked and he moved on. However, if her door had been unlocked she might have been surprised by the guy.
She called the cops immediately and stood on the stairs with a view of the downstairs with her .357 until the cops got there. With Ring she could see it was the cops as they walked up to the door.
They're building a kinder, gentler police state.
Think I’ll keep my security system as my dogs and my gun. Good luck getting a video from one of the dogs...
In theory, I don’t mind police asking for video from outside the house with a REASON, but I’m content having a door people need to knock on.
I don’t have one of those elite “doorbells”. I have a real door bell. Two tone for the front, one for the back.
Video from Ring cameras are stored on Ring's servers. You can download the video to your local computer, but normally you don't need to do so.
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