[JSM_Liberty]

“with the 14th amendment they are still ‘native born’ citizens”

The phrase “natural born Citizen” appears in the constitution, the phrase “native born citizen” does not.

[shadowlands1960]

I wasn't speaking of the clause in Article II, I was referencing the clause in the 14th Amendment: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States...

Because courts have not specified the nature of that citizenship referenced in the amendment, we have no clear understanding of this law... that is, is the citizenship conferred by 'mere birth' native or natural? I believe it is native, not natural...'