[knarf]

all being true . . . I DID say I was skipping over a lot of documented history.

MY point is the American people had to be taught Ukraine and not THE Ukraine, which is what everyone did . . . . pre-phone call.

[BobL]

“MY point is the American people had to be taught Ukraine and not THE Ukraine, which is what everyone did . . . . pre-phone call.”

Due to the Neocons not talking to Putin prior to Feb 24th, and then the Neocon over-reaction to Russia’s limited military operation, there’s a good chance that Ukraine will revert to being “The Ukraine”, as in part of Russia, this time.