Posted on 10/02/2022 11:01:33 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
“HA... How long before the thieve are dropping the entire battery pack from the bottom of the car.”
Not worth the trouble required to hold and move a 1,000 pound battery and put in a trailer.
Just use a tow truck and take the whole car. No one will bother you that isn’t the owner. Disable the GPS location and chop away.
“Part of being married and needing 2 cars anyway means you can have both an EV and an ICE to have the best of both worlds.”
Yes, that makes perfect sense and is why 78% of EV owners also own ICE cars. Most people need both.
“Most people tow trailers less than 30 miles and most people live within 30 miles of work. So what’s the problem with this limited range?”
I’ll agree on the work commute but the trailer part is Grade A lunacy. Got a source for that claim about towing trailers?
Commercial trailers get towed way more than 30 miles a day. Recreational trailers get towed for hours, often. U-Haul trailers, anyone?
My neighbor is working on a piece of property and has a flat-bed. Drives 15 miles east to pick materials, then 35 miles to the property, then 20 miles back home. One trip, 70 miles. And that’s just a guy goofing around.
The charging time to go the 30 miles.
What? You can’t use a solar panel to charge it at night?
Let’s do the math. EV motor 90% efficient at converting electrons to mechanical work (this according to the EV fanboys). But where do the electrons come from? The battery which puts out 94% of the power that you put into it. But how do you put power into it? With a special EV charger 90% efficient. Where does the charger get its electrons? From the power grid (92% efficient) and where does the grid get its power? 65% From power fossil plants which are about 30% efficient at converting fossil fuel to electricity. From nuclear power plants (20% of the grid) 6% from hydro, Max of 9% from wind when it’s blowing and 2% from solar during bright sunny days.
Just looking at the fossil end of things the system is .9 x .94 x .9 x .92 x .3 efficient at extracting work from fossil fuel. That is 21%. A modern Otto cycle engine runs at about 30% efficiency.
But wait you say what about the wonderful magical “renewables”. When the wind is too low or too high windmills don’t work solar doesn’t work at night or when the sky is cloudy. So let’s say they’re available 1/3 of the time. Hydro and nuclear are base load generation and run flat out most of the time so in reality fossil has to make up 2/3 of the magic power or about 7% add this to the 65 to get 72% fossil and then divide 21% by .72 to get the final 29%. So magic electrical vehicles are 1% less efficient at burning fossil fuel than gas cars.
And THIS is going to save the planet?? Seems like a scam to limit our mobility more than anything else
Let’s talk about realities. If you are traveling put of town you are going to use supercharging which puts charging time down to an hour or two depending on how much you charge. The battery onuodel 3 will charge to 80 percent in 30 minutes...then thae last 20 percent takes another half hour. So you adjust your strategy to charge a little more often but 9nly to 80 percent.
It is also true that you loose 2/3 of you mileage capabilities if you are towing. EVs suck at.towing.
No thank you, I think I’ll keep my 2000 Hummer H3 that uses gas and gets 14/18 miles per gallon.
An electric Humvee is just stupid.
EVs are basically just around town commuter vehicles.🤔
Run your clothes dryer on high for 4 days straight without stop, and you will see a dent in your electric bill.
That is about 1200 kilowatt hours. Cost is roughly 170 to 200 dollars, at least.
I have a model 3 sr+ which is the smallest battery Tesla sells
.and to go from 0 to 100 percent would be 9 hours at home wit a 240 charger with 6 kwh charging capacity. Usually I go from 50 percent to 80 percent every other day. So that is only 3 hours.
ICE cars will take more than four days to power up on your
home connection to the grid.
When the electric grid is down, gas pumps don’t work.
National disasters have a tendency to cause the power grid
to go down.
People whose homes are energy self-sufficient, can power up
EVs on their system.
Let people who want to go electric, go electric.
People who wish to remain ICE users, should be able to.
This arbitrary 2035 cutoff of ICE vehicles is nonsense.
The government should stay out of it.
Governments should not be subsidizing EVs.
People should decide for themselves what they want to do,
and others should mind their own business.
I couldn’t care less if 90% of Americans remain with ICE
cars. ICE vehicles ARE NOT destroying the planet. EVs
are not destroying the planet.
There are times when the EV phobics sound as idiotic as the
global warming nuts.
We’ve already heard all the insults from both sides.
Can we ignore this issue from now on? Nothing is going
to be resolved by continuing to fixate on it.
Well, we could have brought along extra generators to produce the electricity. And could have brought along diesel to run the generators. And could have brought along three times as many vehicles so while two are chargeinf, one could be used. And could have brought along portable generators for when a vehicle’s battery went dry in the middle of say, Fallujah. Yes, definitely would save the planet.
Only an idiot would buy an EV expecting to charge with a standard outlet.
A 220 line 50 amp charges 30+ miles of go per hour.
What you are saying is that, in the end, we would have to use those awful fossil fuels to support our effort to wage war? But you’re not saying how our EVs would compare with Saddam’s casoline driven vehicles. How good would our EVs be in the desert?
I really don’t see the problem here. You just buy five of them, which isn’t even $500,000 - i.e. half the cost of a new Ferrari SF90 Stradale. Charge the other four when you take one out. Return it, set it to charge, and take the next one out tomorrow. Each one would be being charged for four days, and then driven one day. I don’t see why this is such a problem.
Now if you’ll excuse me, my helicopter is waiting to take me to my yacht.
Oops, forgot that one. And how would the work in northern climates in winter?
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4 days on a charger vs 4 minutes at the pump. But Earth is “saved.” LOL!!!
... however, a Tesla adapter plug will limit it's draw to about 30 to 35 amps of that available current. The charging rate will be about 8kw/hour. That's about 35 miles of range added each hour.
The standard 115v wall outlet has the potential to add around 5 miles of range per hour with a 2 ton load. I'd suppose the Hummer is half again that, so it likely has range about 2/3 of that.
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