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Return-to-Office Plans Amid Employee Resistance
SHRM ^ | 9/13/22 | Multiple articles

Posted on 09/13/2022 7:06:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro

In June, Tesla CEO Elon Musk demanded that all employees return to their onsite workspaces, according to a leaked e-mail thread. If workers refused, Musk would consider it a resignation.

Again the news today is that the NY Times can't get people back to work. However, I won't post the link.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; Society
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The solution is really simple IF companies believes there is value to the company with on location workers. If you want the benefits of working from home, take a approximate 20% pay cut compared to an equivalent job at the office.
1 posted on 09/13/2022 7:06:45 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

I have a better idea: let the free market sort it out.


2 posted on 09/13/2022 7:11:16 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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I have a better idea: let the free market sort it out.

It will. Then all the work from home folks will be complaining when all the raises and promotions go to people at the office.

3 posted on 09/13/2022 7:13:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Sirius Lee

With pink slips.


4 posted on 09/13/2022 7:13:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Sirius Lee

I think the market will sort it out. Some employees, depending on how in demand their skills are, have been able to say they want to work from home, and have left jobs which require them to be in the office, because they are easily able to get jobs will allow work from home.


5 posted on 09/13/2022 7:15:09 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mewzilla

That said, I feel for employees with long commutes.

That expense is onerous.


6 posted on 09/13/2022 7:15:19 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: 1Old Pro

I predict the exact opposite.

The most talented employees will be in demand—and they will dictate their working conditions by refusing to work at jobs where they are required to be at the office.

It may take a while for this to sort out, but the days of white collar workers reporting to their office cubicles will be coming to an end.


7 posted on 09/13/2022 7:15:36 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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'If you want the benefits of working from home, take a approximate 20% pay cut compared to an equivalent job at the office. '

That's not a benefit for the employee, but the employer. Imagine the costs that can now be cut to have their employees use their own homes to work in.

Almost like a uber scam. Employers should be offering 20% raise to outsource their costs to their employees. No more offices, and the costs that come with them, etc etc.

Naturally the next would be for companies to lower their costs even more to overseas and AI. This ultimately will hurt US workers going forward who aren't locked into a 'needed' job.

8 posted on 09/13/2022 7:16:25 AM PDT by Theoria
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I keep warning people that laying off a WFH person is so much easier emotionally than laying off someone that you know from the office almost every day.

I think a lot of people that are ungrateful for their employment, are going to be begging for any job in about a year or two.


9 posted on 09/13/2022 7:18:14 AM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: 1Old Pro

If someone is so socially awkward that they can’t come into the office a few times a week, then I probably don’t want them long term.


10 posted on 09/13/2022 7:21:18 AM PDT by Codeflier (I am just going to assume you are a Democrat if you call me a Putin supporter and ignore you.)
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To: 1Old Pro

I agree.

This administration has done all they can to undercut business and industry, and this is just one more thing.

I am not a believer in the work from home mindset, but if the employee and employer agree on something, it is all good.

If employees want it and employers don’t, I believe the final say should be with the employers.

If people want to vote with their feet, they can and will.

The end result is, the jewel of our economy, our productivity, is going to be the equivalent of Europe in the end.

With all that goes along with that, and none of it good in the long run.

A lot of people disagree with me on this, and I get it. But this is my opinion.

I expect that people will get what they ask for, good and hard.


11 posted on 09/13/2022 7:21:38 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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>>I think a lot of people that are ungrateful for their employment, are going to be begging for any job in about a year or two.

Yep, when Biden gets done destroying the economy, people will be begging to come back into the office, in return for a steady paycheck.


12 posted on 09/13/2022 7:21:55 AM PDT by qwerty1234
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To: Theoria

I know somebody who worked from home, even before covid.

She said there were pluses and minuses. It was nice to not have a commute to work. On the other hand, she had to pay for high speed internet and run her air conditioning constantly on hot summer days, so those personal expenses were higher.

If we will have choices to work from home or in the office, we’ll see what choices people make. Or if the decision is made for them. I predict that many companies will not be leasing the same amount of office space they currently rent, if work from home becomes permanent for many. And it’s quite possible that new hires will be hired with the understanding that they need to work off site.


13 posted on 09/13/2022 7:22:30 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: mewzilla

I agree, the cost savings has offset inflation somewhat.


14 posted on 09/13/2022 7:24:25 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: Codeflier
I think a lot of people that are ungrateful for their employment, are going to be begging for any job in about a year or two.

Workers are becoming unreasonably demanding. Th pendulum will swing back. Currently they have their employers by the short hairs, especially if they are in the right industry that is struggling for competent workers. It will sort itself out in a year or so and IF it is the type of work that an office is more conducive than people will have to face that. However, there are many industries that that is not necessary, and frankly hasn't been even prior to covid. But if office secretaries think they are going to work from home forever, it ain't happening especially if part of their work is people interaction.

15 posted on 09/13/2022 7:25:24 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cgbg

Almost no one works as hard when no one is watching as when they are watched. And if your job requires interaction, the interaction is more effective in person.

Kids don’t learn as well remotely. Nor do workers interact as well.

And a huge number of jobs actually involve DOING something. Not just talking or writing.


16 posted on 09/13/2022 7:26:06 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Goldman Sachs announced about a week ago they wanted everyone back in the office. They are probably going to use it to cut out 10% of the work force going into a recession.

My company in NH(about 60 employees)did the same thing in March of 2021. The boss asked everyone to come back in. Three employees chose not to. Only one of those is still with the company.
The two that left were not getting their work done at home. The other people in the office were having to pick up the slack.


17 posted on 09/13/2022 7:26:19 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: 1Old Pro
I post this same observation on every thread I come across related to RTO/WFH dynamics in the workplace …

Any CEO who has had employees working from home productively for the last 30 months would be a fool to force them back to the office.

Think of all the costs of leasing and operating tens of thousands of square feet of office space. Now, think of how much money the company saves when employees willingly take on all those costs themselves.

Like I said … any CEO who doesn’t see the pragmatic wisdom of this should be fired.

18 posted on 09/13/2022 7:26:43 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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It will. Then all the work from home folks will be complaining when all the raises and promotions go to people at the office.
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There’s a risk with that. What if they find all the deadbeats come in only to yak at the water coolers while the most productive employees are using technology to outproduce the office lackies. A smart corporation will judge employees on productivity and not whether they sit at an office desk.


19 posted on 09/13/2022 7:27:23 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: Unassuaged

Note to companies: You might want to help employees with carpooling efforts, organization. I’m all for big sticks, but carrots are cool, too.


20 posted on 09/13/2022 7:27:43 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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