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Navy plans to scrap ex-carrier Enterprise at private shipyard instead of PSNS
Kitsap Sun via Yahoo ^ | 08/19/2022 | Josh Farley

Posted on 08/21/2022 2:18:44 PM PDT by DFG

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To: dainbramaged

E or W Bremerton High?


61 posted on 08/21/2022 7:02:40 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I agree, but they probably don’t have the great amenities that the trannies, queers, lipstick leslie, and woke soy boys want to live aboard.


62 posted on 08/21/2022 7:04:22 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

That was the Dimwitz.... I mean the Nimitz. Those on a competing carrier I shall not name, called her that.


63 posted on 08/21/2022 7:07:02 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: DFG

My understanding is the Enterprise was already under tow to a shipyard here in Texas, taking the long route around South America - since it’s not able to be underway itself through the Panama Canal.


64 posted on 08/21/2022 7:15:10 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Joe Biden is the dementia riddled, no-filter grifter he's always been - just now, we get to see it.)
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To: BobL

“Not sure what Russia has to do with this, but if China (or Russia) were trying to take Hawaii, then I’d be interested in how many carriers they had.”

The chicoms have one carrier, that was the incomplete sister ship to the Russian scrapheap Kuznetsov.

“I’d say having as many carriers as possible would be a SMART strategy and SCRAPPING carriers to ‘save money’ is simply STUPID”

The USS Enterprise is an obsolete 55+ year old ship that has already been replaced by CVN-78 Gerald R Ford.


65 posted on 08/21/2022 7:34:28 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying To All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

“The chicoms have one carrier, that was the incomplete sister ship to the Russian scrapheap Kuznetsov.”

I’ll ask again, how many carriers does China need to attack Taiwan?

“The USS Enterprise is an obsolete 55+ year old ship that has already been replaced by CVN-78 Gerald R Ford.”

We weren’t trying to start major wars around the world when we sized our fleet of carriers. Now we need whatever hardware we can get our hands on. After all, how long does it take to build a new carrier?


66 posted on 08/21/2022 7:49:25 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: BobL
Nuclear powered CVs are just plain dumb. We need conventional carriers because they are way Less expensive, same strike capability and require less crew training. Conventional carriers are much more survivable and can take much more battle damage and NOT LEAK RADIATION ALL OVER THE CREW.

A CVN operates as part of a Battle Group all of which are conventionally powered. To me CVNs make no sense.

67 posted on 08/21/2022 7:57:21 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

“To me CVNs make no sense.”

I don’t know enough to make the call on how to power carriers, but so far, the warmongers don’t seem to agree with you.


68 posted on 08/21/2022 8:03:16 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: BobL

Red my post. I explain my position clearly. A nuclear reactor is just an exotic and sexy way to simply boil water.


69 posted on 08/21/2022 8:05:10 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: sasportas
Ships having the name Enterprise, are the most famous ships in the USN.


70 posted on 08/21/2022 8:07:48 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The firearms I own today, are the firearms I will die with. How I die will be up to them.)
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To: central_va

“Red my post. I explain my position clearly. A nuclear reactor is just an exotic and sexy way to simply boil water.”

If you want me to send a letter to General Austin, I guess I can, but I doubt he’ll chance the course of carrier procurement because of me.


71 posted on 08/21/2022 8:13:12 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: DFG

The last decommissioned carrier was towed to Port of Brownsville (TX) shipyard just a couple months ago.


72 posted on 08/21/2022 8:18:07 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Glad2bnuts
E or W Bremerton High?
Neither - we moved to King County in 1955 when I was 3 years old. My Dad had a job at Todd Shipyard in Seattle.
73 posted on 08/21/2022 8:33:03 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Louis XVI of France and I share a common ancestor, but I still have my head.)
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To: central_va

I agree.
Nuclear makes sense on subs that need to run quiet and
have long periods between refueling, but not for carriers.


74 posted on 08/21/2022 8:39:47 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: GreyHoundSailor

That’s insane.

There was a military China expert on Stephen K. Bannon’s War Room who said that we should go on a recruiting campaign after re-commissioning mothballed ships in order to counter the China threat.


75 posted on 08/21/2022 10:03:40 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

The Russians can barely keep the Kuznetsov from foundering alongside the dock. The fire did major damage to the hangar space and flight deck, the engines need to be replaced for lack of Soviet era spares, and the 1980’s electronics suite needs to be utterly replaced.

It really would be cheaper to build a new ship.

But Russia can’t build such ships anymore.

In short, Russia is out of the carrier business.


76 posted on 08/21/2022 10:31:54 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: BobL

The USA is not Russia. Russia is stuck pretending they can put a 42yo rusty carrier to sea. We know it’s more economical to replace an old ship with a new one.

Big E is fifty-five and she’s done.

Yes, it’s sad to see old ships get paid off but that’s how it goes.


77 posted on 08/21/2022 10:38:33 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

They have to tow it around South America if the ship has to change coasts. It won’t fit through the Panama Canal.


78 posted on 08/21/2022 10:40:05 PM PDT by rottndog (What comes after America?)
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To: MercyFlush

“Russia is stuck pretending they can put a 42yo rusty carrier to sea.”

You guys really seemed obsessed with the Russian and Chinese navies. So I’ll ask again, why does either country need a blue water navy if they are only trying to defend their local interests against a country thousands of miles away?

And again, if we want to be starting wars on the other side of the planet, I would hope to be reading more about the EXPANSION of our navy, not the cutting up of our ships, as I heard in the 1980s, when we were looking to restore our capability to fight the Soviets.

Why does that NEVER seem to bother you guys? Why do you guys ONLY talk of fighting wars when the US navy is smaller than it has been in nearly 100 years?

I can only think of one reason.


79 posted on 08/22/2022 4:01:13 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: dainbramaged

That town was great in the 50’s - 70’s. I was born and raised there, crime was not noticeable, we could roam at night (parents sleeping) and did. Just to do it. It was like farm country after dark. I remember they had a bus stop just for servicemen, with the information on the side that these guys didn’t have one. They would sit in it, and people would pull up and give them rides. That was before they had fleets of buses, wasting fuel moving people from place to place in an endless loop. My dad did it often with us kids in the car. Of course he was retired Navy, and the sailors would “shoot the shit” with Dad all the way along. Hell, we used to ride the boat to Seattle a lot too, kids walking in Downtown Seattle, TODAY??? no freakin way.


80 posted on 08/22/2022 9:16:48 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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