[Pollard]

I live in hill country. The paved country roads have a 55 mph speed limit. It’s 25 miles to the nearest grocery store. 35 miles to the nearest industrial park for a manufacturing job. 60 miles to a metro type area for good office jobs with 25 of it being the interstate hwy. It snows and we get a lot of ice coating everything and temps can get below zero.

[fwdude]

The next leftist engineering feat will to construct all roadways on a downhill grade.

[butlerweave]

It looks like they’re just turning a gas engine car into an EV not a complete redesign

[joshua c]

or put doors on your golf cart

[FarCenter]

There should be good market for small trailers with a generator and gas tank so you can charge the car continuously while driving longer distances.

[Sequoyah101]

These things remind me of the junk cars made to address the fuel shortages of the 70s and early 80s. You know the ones:

Chrysler K car
GM X body
Ford Mustang of the day
Jap mid size and compacts were the car to have. The first Honda Civics came out with not much more than a motorcycle engine.

They were all mostly junk vehicles thrown out to have something on the market that seemed to demand them. When the fuel crisis ended in ‘86, and even before, the vans, Explorers and Suburbans came out in droves. Nobody wanted to drive a Pontiac Phoenix any more. You didn’t even see old ones around for very long.

Problem is, these are a whole lot more expensive than the ICE cars of days gone by.

[Monkey Face]

Well, as I said before, give me a combustion engine every time!

‘Face

;o]

[bobbo666]

Spotted a YTube video the other day on something similar. A hybrid that can also charge. Bloody useless. Its underpowered battery pack and gas motor are OK -- until the battery goes flat at <100mi. At that point the hypothetical mileage goes from ~300 to ~30. The flat battery is just an anchor. Also takes 8 hours to charge, unless you are at a public charging station. When the charging station sees >1 customer it drops the voltage -- so now it takes 16 hours. The technology is crappola, not thought out. It's like wind turbines in Texas operating at <10% since hot days on flat landscapes => no wind. Well, d'oh.

[NorthMountain]

Looks like combustion engines still have a reason to stick around after all.

We are talking about coal-powered cars for one reason only: Government doesn't want you to be free to travel.

[The Great RJ]

How EVs perform in real world conditions for the long term has not been seriously tested. If this Mazda EV barely makes 70 miles under near ideal conditions how will it perform when the temperatures are well below freezing and lights, wipers, heater and defroster are needed? How about a high humidity 90+ degree day when AC would be almost a necessity? What about the long term… how well will these EVs perform at say 60,000 miles? Will they still hold enough charge for any serious driving? We are already hearing anecdotal reports about the high cost of replacing battery packs in EVs…costs that can exceed to value of the vehicle. What would be the value of a high mileage Tesla as a used car? Given the battery replacement costs EVs could basically be disposable..you don’t replace the battery and keep the car, you junk the car and buy a new one….hardly any boon to the environment.

[dennisw]

You want a cute and inexpensive EV. Go buy a Hyundai Kona EV.>>>>>>>

Living with Hyundai Kona Electric EV | Australian Auto Expert John Cadogan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w39ALqowjf0

(I would buy one if I had $40,000 lying around)

[Georgia Girl 2]

The car of the future. 😆

[Grampa Dave]

Re the Bolt.

A couple of years ago I started a friendly family game re counting Bolts.

I am the winner so far with 3, about one a year.

The other 6 family members have one each, and my wife has yet to identify a Bolt vehicle. 3 family members live in a semi touristy small town, and there probably isn’t a charger there.

[Ex gun maker.]

I live in a small farm community.
To go into town is a minimum of 25 miles round trip.
So if I had to go twice in winter or summer I would be approaching “Range anxiety” territory.
To go to ANY larger town is a minimum of 60 miles EACH WAY.
This car would not get me there and back.
Having to “Lay over” for several hours just to do casual shopping will never be acceptable.
At $35,000 this is a clunker.

[pfflier]

The argument can be made that the average owner doesn’t need more than 100 miles of range

Whoever the hell believes that doesn't live in a flyover state. Only the east coast elites have their chauffeur drive them that far.

[NWFree]

It might be good for the kids to play with in the driveway 🤪

[Southside_Chicago_Republican]

This isn’t even good for driving in larger urban areas. If I drove the length of Chicago south to north, I would barely have enough juice to make it back.

[gitmo]

According to Mazda, it’s meant for a daily commute of about 30 miles in typical city/suburb terrain (so no big inclines) and with opportunities for charging it up at each end of the daily commute.

I guess I'd have to get a diesel generator to charge it while I'm at work. My office complex doesn't have any charging stations.

[Crusher138]

Friend of mine owns a BMW EV.

I asked how often he charges his car.

“Every night”.

“Why?”

“I could maybe drive 2 days without charging, but it would be a close thing getting home.”

“What would happen if there was a power outage when you got home?”

Silence.