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Manipulation of the UFO Phenomenon: Are We Being Duped?
mysteriousuniverse.org/ ^ | Jun 13, 2022 I | Nick Redfern

Posted on 06/13/2022 7:55:36 AM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: BenLurkin

Given that everybody on the planet seems to have a cell phone, and that many can take professional looking pics and video (and most of the rest can do at least a decent photo), why aren’t there some good, clear, detailed images of aliens, spacecraft, etc? Enough with the long distance, blurry white dots streaking across the sky (supposedly). If space aliens exist here on earth we would have at least a few decent pics by now.


21 posted on 06/13/2022 8:33:20 AM PDT by Roadrunner383 (;)
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To: Roadrunner383

Any reasonably intelligent alien species would know how to blend in with the environment.

A nice clear picture would be proof they are stupid as rocks!


22 posted on 06/13/2022 8:35:48 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: BenLurkin

“felt that his memory might have been tampered with.”

Beer tampers with my memory.

;)


23 posted on 06/13/2022 8:35:58 AM PDT by dynachrome (“We cannot save Ukraine by dooming the US economy.” Rand Paul)
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To: allendale
Nonsense. We sense three variables of dimension space, linear, planar, and volume. With just one more variable anythingwith the fourth variable integrated into their physical make up would be invisible to us, unless it could pause one variable expression so it is 'in' our limits well. Is this possible? well, yes. The Bible relates more than two or three examples of this phenomenon.

God does miracles ... angels use technology genertated in their civilization; and there are good angels and bad anhels.

24 posted on 06/13/2022 8:37:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: BenLurkin
I've posted this before but it's worth considering.
Ben Rich was the second director of Lockheed Skunkworks from 1975-1991. He’s been called the Father of Stealth, having overseen the development of the stealth fighter, the F-117A nighthawk. Before his death, Rich made several shocking open statements about the reality of UFOs and extraterrestrials. “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do it.” “We now have technology to take ET home. No it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars.” “There are two types of UFOs — the ones we build and the ones ‘they’ build.” This 3 minute video is an interview with an engineer who witnessed those statements by Ben Rich and spoke with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83QIbUkgzeg
25 posted on 06/13/2022 8:39:04 AM PDT by dainbramaged (What did the cook say when the rat fell into the chowder? "Better luck next time.")
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To: cuban leaf
The point is that traveling to other stars at sub-light speeds via AI piloted machines is an engineering challenge, not one of overcoming the laws of physics.

There were once people who lacked the ability to imagine a flying machine because they had never seen one. Not my problem.

26 posted on 06/13/2022 8:39:28 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: allendale
You mean there's nothing to learn about physics after Einstein...that he discovered all there is and all there could ever be?

Sounds reasonable to me.;-)

27 posted on 06/13/2022 8:40:42 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: BenLurkin
Lazar said this was a one second view as he passed by a door in the place he worked. He also stated he was not sure what he had seen.

What he did state in detail during the Joe Rogan interview is that he and one other guy worked on the propulsion system of a craft that distorted the gravitational field around the craft. Allowing it to move faster than anything we, the Russians or Chinese were capable of.

This goes along with radar, visual and electronic signatures of UFOs of the last twenty plus years that are now being published by Naval Aviators. That these objects defy the laws of gravity and exceed the g forces that we perceive a human could handle. These hyper sonic craft are able to move at speeds through the atmosphere and the oceans and maneuver at over 12 g’s. Yet they make no sound as they routinely break the sound barrier.

28 posted on 06/13/2022 8:45:41 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Sirius Lee
Heavier than air vehicles CANNOT fly, now or ever.

Impossible!

On top of that, we know for a fact that the human body cannot travel faster than 50 mph and live. Fast train travel will make women's uteruses fly out of their bodies...and that would cause them to die.

Facts are facts.

29 posted on 06/13/2022 8:47:08 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Jonty30
While enthusiastic UFO researchers may dearly want to believe that living aliens are at Area 51, Lazar’s carefully worded statement suggests we should exercise restraint on this issue – at least until, or if, further vindication comes along.

We have the verification. Its called the sciences of astronomy and physics. The distances, light years, to the other stars are unimaginable. To travel at the speed of light impossible (E=MC^2). Those who believe in the "Little Green Men" are either drunk or delusional or both. So anyway even if we are 'not alone' alone we must stay .

30 posted on 06/13/2022 8:47:44 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: cuban leaf
"As a Christian, I believe the bible leaves room for quadrillions of inhabited planets...."

"In my father's house, there are many mansions."

31 posted on 06/13/2022 8:49:15 AM PDT by ALASKA (w)
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To: dainbramaged

I watched the video. Very interesting. A number of credible people have come forward with information. There has got to be something there. In my years as a space-astronomy buff, I’ve seen a number of unidentifiable objects. Aliens from another planet? Unknown sky phenomena? I have no idea but I have seen a few strange things.


32 posted on 06/13/2022 8:59:11 AM PDT by NeverTyranny
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To: allendale

CHECK Einstein had it right


33 posted on 06/13/2022 9:09:34 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: cuban leaf

There’s nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth!


34 posted on 06/13/2022 9:14:05 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: BenLurkin

What a pity we can’t convert space alien wackadoodles into gasoline. I’m not sure even fission reactors could produce so much energy.


35 posted on 06/13/2022 9:20:11 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: Jonty30

“...we are also in the last days and in a time of increased demonic activity.”

Despite my skepticism and attempts to remain objective, I agree with that statement after having witnessed demonic activity on the street in broad daylight. And not the normal crazy sh!t I see daily in Downtown LA, but the mind bending kind that make a person shake their head with disbelief and incredulity.

I was a skeptic. Now I’m a believer.


36 posted on 06/13/2022 9:27:38 AM PDT by Qui is (First, never apologize to the enemy, and second, never forget that Biden spews and Harris swallows. )
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To: BenLurkin

They have been duping us for decades, until the last few years- then some people released some videos and credible witnesses have come forward. Now, it appears there are some in government who are keeping secrets from the Congress and multiple Presidents. It is seems that there are competing factions in the military-intelligence establishment who disagree about whether we or our elected officials deserve to know the truth.


37 posted on 06/13/2022 9:31:08 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: equaviator

I think the time line is off.

New detection equipment is locating a number of very old structures, one being purposefully buried with dirt containing suitable organic material. Deep down sampling if that organic material dated back 10k years.

LIDAR imagery studies of the Amazon region have yielded some astonishing finds... grids, mounds, more temples and possibly observatories.

IF alien reports and cultures, visitations, and folklore is all contrived... the very quest for knowledge about this folklore and its mythetical origins has led humankind towards magnificent discoveries about the Universe.


38 posted on 06/13/2022 9:31:52 AM PDT by Clutch Martin ("The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right." )
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39 posted on 06/13/2022 9:38:08 AM PDT by The Louiswu (We couldn't 'afford' $4 billion for Trump's wall at the southern border?)
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To: Don Corleone

“While enthusiastic UFO researchers may dearly want to believe that living aliens are at Area 51...”

There is a misconception concerning the use of Area 51. Area 51 has been an experimental site for years in the development of weapons to include sub sonics, and attempt at weather control. And before you go after me on that last part, remember, we’ve been seeding clouds for rain since the 1940’s.

But very little has been determined, even to this day, about the Groom Lake part and it’s airport first used in 1942 as Indian Springs Air Force Auxiliary Field. It opened with a 5000 foot runway. And being hidden in the hills, it was selected in 1955 for Project AQUATONE: the development of the Lockheed U-2 strategic reconnaissance aircraft.

Other aircraft that were developed their by Lockheed was the A-12 that became the SR-71, and the YF-117A 79–780 which evolved into the F-117 stealth. Another aircraft that hasn’t made the transition is the Aurora, a mach 5 aircraft to replace the SR that was being visited in the 1980’s. There is no release of information on if it has been built. Just that it is on the drawing board.

So, there was experimentation being done on aircraft as part of the Area 51 complex, but it was done for the aircraft side at Groom Lake.

But consider this, with all the little rocks flying around in space, how can we be so egotistical that we feel we are the only “planet” that can have life and that it might not be as intelligent as we are. We can’t even define life successfully. How do we know it isn’t there by their definition. And if I was a creature in space watching this planet try everything they can to do damage to it and it’s inhabitants, I wouldn’t show myself either as I wouldn’t walk down a dark alley in south Chicago or in parts of Compton in California. Mama didn’t raise no fool. But she did raise one to ponder things. Especially those things that people actually know little about.

wy69


40 posted on 06/13/2022 9:41:15 AM PDT by whitney69
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