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The vaccine-hesitant could use some friendly shame (barf alert)
BWorld Online ^ | March 29, 2022 | Cathy O'Neil

Posted on 04/03/2022 6:16:14 AM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: DoodleBob
"science"

I know how to "listen to the science." I listen to the people who follow "the science" and do what they tell me to do.

Anyone can do it.

41 posted on 04/03/2022 8:05:07 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: outofsalt
Your story sounds quite a bit like mine.

One big difference however is that I had at least a 6 month supply of Hydroxychloroquine. It was a legitimate Rx, for my diagnosed RA. I was reluctant to take it because I had a pretty disastrous experience with earlier prescribed Meds. As I had no flare ups I simply got the refills but never took it. That is until Trump mentioned it early on.

I literally have cared for many dozens, probably hundreds of these Patients and I never developed symptoms at all. I believe that the HCQ immunized me.

I agree with your Post here fully.

42 posted on 04/03/2022 8:13:24 AM PDT by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits )
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To: Theophilus

Is that Cathy or Charlie?


43 posted on 04/03/2022 8:15:09 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (Liberalism is a cancer on our nation.)
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To: Theophilus

No one with green hair is going to shame me!


44 posted on 04/03/2022 8:15:53 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (Liberalism is a cancer on our nation.)
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To: DoodleBob

Fascists could use some friendly hangings.


45 posted on 04/03/2022 8:39:13 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: AndyJackson

“Follow the science”, but, “we can’t define what a woman is”.


46 posted on 04/03/2022 8:40:48 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: CIB-173RDABN
I got sick the weekend of July 4th before covid was suppose to be in America. It was a sickness like I never felt before. I didn't have a fever but I couldn't get comfortable going from the chills and then feeling too hot. My sense of smell was off the charts. Even the smell of our water made me sick to my stomach. I couldn't eat anything. My arms and hands were going numb all the time. It lasted 4 days. The last day I dry heaved so hard I hurt my eye. Only a small amount of bile came out but I started feeling better from that day.
47 posted on 04/03/2022 8:42:20 AM PDT by Rdct29 (Democrats are the new Nazi's. They think they deserve total control over the people)
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To: DoodleBob
Lots of interesting comments on this patriots.win thread...

Thanks to backstabbing doctors, the entire hospital industry will fall as nobody wants to go to the hospital anymore. You all sold your soul for nothing.

48 posted on 04/03/2022 8:56:44 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: DoodleBob
Almost lost a job..over the jab.

Ain't NEVER taking it....

49 posted on 04/03/2022 9:00:05 AM PDT by Osage Orange (1961 VW Two Door Truck)
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To: DoodleBob

I could see taking this position a year ago, when there was still a chance the vaccines might be successful.

But they were a complete and total failure by any measure.

This is akin to bank robbers learning ahead of time that the vault is empty, but then proceeding with the risky bank robbery anyway.


50 posted on 04/03/2022 9:14:30 AM PDT by enumerated
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To: DoodleBob

Anyone who thinks I can be shamed into taking the needle is sadly mistaken.


51 posted on 04/03/2022 9:16:08 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (In time of peace, prepare for war.)
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To: DoodleBob

They have no better means of convincing me to take the vax than shaming me into it?

They’ll need to come up with something of with more substance. Like, “It works and has no serious side effects and if something goes wrong, I will be recompensed for damages.”


52 posted on 04/03/2022 9:54:01 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: DoodleBob

They can KMA.


53 posted on 04/03/2022 10:00:06 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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To: MomwithHope; DoodleBob

This vaccine is outdated and has little-to-no effect against any current strain.

There is only a downside, to taking it.


54 posted on 04/03/2022 10:04:57 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The forces of fascism and oppression are on the move in North America. We cannot let tyranny stand!)
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To: goodnesswins

Or freak. Hard to tell these days. Had the same thought you did.


55 posted on 04/03/2022 11:41:20 AM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative )
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To: DoodleBob

And thalidomide is great for morning sickness. Science says....


56 posted on 04/03/2022 11:43:39 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: JaguarXKE

If her feet were as blue as her hair, she'd be a blue foot boobie

57 posted on 04/03/2022 11:52:48 AM PDT by Theophilus (Convoy!)
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To: AndyJackson
It's worth repeating...SCIENCE ISN'T MATH..

It never was.

And it sure isn't now.

Remember how science said ulcers were induced chiefly by stress or spicy food? It turns out, they are induced chiefly by bacteria. Whoops.

The history of science is littered with "no wait....that's wrong...THIS is right..." going through the rinse and repeat cycle endlessly.

And that's ok. Inquiry and challenge and "being a science heretic" is, in many ways, how mankind learns more and can fix more problems.

But science isn't math. Your checking account balance is the sum of deposits less sum of withdrawals. Always. Forever.

The problem arises when people try to equate science with math...usually they call it "settled science." And, to be sure, robust inquiry and disciplined application of the scientific method usually gives you clear and distinct results. Then, science is settled...until we get new data or better techniques, and then we get "wait a minute..".

For example, there was a most excellent article posted on how "settled science" wasn't so settled, wherein:

seems that Earth has been misplaced. According to a new map of the Milky Way galaxy, the Solar System's position isn't where we thought it was. Not only is it closer to the galactic centre - and the supermassive hole therein, Sagittarius A* - it's orbiting at a faster clip.

It further noted other "errors" in SCIENCE:

A good recent example of this is the red giant star Betelgeuse, which turned out to be closer to Earth than previous measurements suggested. This means that it's neither as large nor as bright as we thought. Another is the object CK Vulpeculae, a star that exploded 350 years ago. It's actually much farther away, which means that the explosion was brighter and more energetic, and requires a new explanation, since previous analyses were performed under the assumption it was relatively low energy

The other problem arises when Certain Powers work overtime to suppress assiduous inquiry. Which, is what we have today as well. It's a bad double whammy.

In the interest of full disclosure, my "science isn't math" quote came from a recent post on social sciences, that featured this brilliant give and take involving a Harvard faculty member critical of Charles Murray from the original article, that is worth reprinting - it is with regard to the "certainty of SCIENCE":

"so why should we let someone teach social science that we know to be wrong in our social science courses?"

Because it is possible that you are wrong.
Science is not mathematics. Newtonian physics was wrong. And social science is a further three rungs down in certainty from science.

Your level of certainty and arrogance about what can be said, and probably thought, smacks of religion, and not science. This is a political religion that permeates academia at the moment. And which I am fairly sure you will swear does not infect you, while the rest of us can see the symptoms quite plainly.

Only religions ban heretics from speaking because of the wrong-think they might cause. Real science loves a good heretic. In fact, honestly, the entire goal of science is to be a heretic. To have an idea that no other person ever had. Science is the pretty much the antithesis of your thought-police approach.

And most of academia used to be the antithesis of your thought police approach as well, until the religion of leftism took it over, with the direct help of people like you.

58 posted on 04/03/2022 12:55:37 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: DoodleBob
Newtonian physics was wrong.

And there you have it from an utter ignoramus. Newtonian physics is right for 99.99% of terrestrial uses. It goes wrong when the speed of light is a factor.

59 posted on 04/03/2022 2:09:34 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Theophilus

If that ugly ole witch want a fake vax, then fine take it. Otherwise she can shut the hell up.


60 posted on 04/03/2022 2:12:08 PM PDT by dforest
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