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To: otness_e
It certainly proves Putin is still Communist though.

It "proves" nothing.

If he truly wasn’t communist, please explain why he is still keeping Lenin’s tomb in operation instead of bulldozing it the ground...

Not my job to "explain" Russia's management of Russian national monuments

Explain why America hasn't bulldozed the Washington Monument or the Jefferson Memorial, you're American, everyone knows they were White Supremacist Slavers.

... you clearly aren’t aware of how even Lenin, aka the guy who first brought the theory of Communism into practice not just in Russia, but the entire World...

Actually, I am more aware of that than you are.

...did something like that early into the old USSR, the New Economic Policy,...

Proving Lenin had the Power to send Communism to America and reduce it's negative effect on his source of that power, Russia, not that Communism works.

...and he was VERY adamant that not only did it NOT change anything about the USSR being Communist, but that if anything even with those changes (which he was forced to bring about due to it nearly causing the USSR to collapse early on),...

Proving again, that Lenin abandoned the key element of Communism (Economic Policy), and used Power to pretend publicly that he didn't.

Further, you admit that Lenin's Communism Light Economics DID collapse the Soviet Union, eventually, and I made no prediction on the eventual fate of Communist Light China.

Besides, let me remind you that Armand Hammer, a huge businessman who repeatedly tried to push in making trade deals with the USSR, was not only a Communist agent, but also a key KGB asset.

So what? That only proves that Lenin was effective in sending Communism to America, not that Communism works or that China didn't go to Communism Light to make their Economy work.Communism is about Power, not Communism, however you don't have to be a Communist to pursue Power, even in Russia.

65 posted on 03/10/2022 8:04:45 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

“It “proves” nothing.”

Yes, actually, it does. Even Diana West, Ion Mihai Pacepa, and others MORE than made it clear that was proof, and they’re pro-Trump and anti-Deep State (not to mention in Pacepa’s case, had direct experience to what went on in the USSR’s intelligence systems).

“Explain why America hasn’t bulldozed the Washington Monument or the Jefferson Memorial, you’re American, everyone knows they were White Supremacist Slavers.”

You know full well they weren’t White Supremacist Slavers, unlike Lenin who IS in fact a huge mass murdering psychopath, which, BTW, plenty of Russians even admit currently. You yourself with that argument sound too much like a BLM leftist (since only BLM leftists engage in THAT kind of rhetoric).

“Proving Lenin had the Power to send Communism to America and reduce it’s negative effect on his source of that power, Russia, not that Communism works.”

Actually, even under Marx, it was all about power, or rather, about anarchy, it was NEVER about economics (that was just the excuse). What Marx’s specific design for Communism was is in fact a gorier rehash of Robespierre’s Reign of Terror. Besides, Marx was a notorious moocher who literally sponged after his own family and friends, one of whom, Engels, hailed from capitalists, aka, the guys he railed against. So saying it’s merely an economic theory is at best naive and at worse willful ignorance and/or lying. It’s as much an economic theory as Rules for Radicals was.

“Proving Lenin had the Power to send Communism to America and reduce it’s negative effect on his source of that power, Russia, not that Communism works.

“Proving again, that Lenin abandoned the key element of Communism (Economic Policy), and used Power to pretend publicly that he didn’t.

Further, you admit that Lenin’s Communism Light Economics DID collapse the Soviet Union, eventually, and I made no prediction on the eventual fate of Communist Light China.”

Seriously, if we were to go purely by the theory of Marxism as an economic policy, it collapsed even under Karl Marx himself due to literally sponging after his parents and Friedrich Engels’ parents.

“So what? That only proves that Lenin was effective in sending Communism to America, not that Communism works or that China didn’t go to Communism Light to make their Economy work. Communism is about Power, not Communism, however you don’t have to be a Communist to pursue Power, even in Russia.”

No, but you DO have to be a Communist to actually retain Marx’s bust within the public square, helm the Communist World Youth Conference at Sochi, claim Lenin’s relics were the same as Christian relics, make similar claims regarding the Communist Manifesto and the Ten Commandments, and outright claim that the greatest geopolitical disaster was in 1991 rather than 1917. All of which, BTW, Putin did. Ergo, communist. And for the record, I as an anti-Communist, like all humans, desire power, but I would NEVER embrace the Communists’ talking points to gain power. I if anything would turn around and make sure ALL Communists are jailed, executed, exiled, all of that, stop at NOTHING until the population of Communists is reduced to 0, not just in Russia, but the entire WORLD, here included.


66 posted on 03/10/2022 2:17:36 PM PST by otness_e
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