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To: mdmathis6

Read post 8.


10 posted on 01/19/2022 2:40:55 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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My work place is in central Virginia so i know what is used generally in this area. Post 8 mentions New Jersey where thegovernor should be tried for sedition and vote fraud as far as I’m concerned. Still the post lacks certain information and I’m not sure of your point...that midazolam murders are just as extant in the USA as they are in Great Britain? I doubt that.

That ‘DNR” finagling is an issue, especially in Blue States. I have to agree with that point but it isn’t just coming from the politicians. A good 30-40 percent of health care workers have drunk the kool-aid when it comes to the idea of curtailing “life sustaining” treatments to people who reached certain ages or who have such a range of co-morbidities, that when a critical condition in their care is reached, then the patients and their families should be “urged” to consider hospice and not life sustaining care. Of course there is no fixed ethical universally agreed upon standards by which the level of conditions and ages the cessation of “heroic measures” can be accomplished and hospice care offered.

Some 90 year old comes up with a hip fracture because during night time sundowners period they got up without help and tripped and fell.
Too often I see staffs split over whether to put in advanced lines for pressors and iv fluids when these elderly patients become shocky with low bp’s post surgery. Never mind about the decision made to operate on the hip in the first place which should have obligted the covering docs and nurses to at least perform the proper post op supporting measures and put in a central line or I/O when the peripheral lines failed and infiltrated. In one scenario I know about, one practitioner wouldn’t put such a line in a 90 something year old because “it hurt the heart” to do it.(according to that practitioner, they were too old and should not have had surgery and should have been “allowed” to just go hospice and die...the patient was not vented or sedated, just needed more fluids) while ignoring completely that the patient was in a medical post op period where hypovolemia and low pressures might be expected. If it had been a 20 something to 50 something, they would have placed such line in a heartbeat.

Yeah the battlelines are broadly drawn, and it isn’t just politicians. The root of these issue is this fascination with death and this certain urge that some real socio-paths have from their evil souls to rationalize death as a means of solving society’s issues.
“The death with dignity” movement has become more in line with “Eat the forbidden fruit and declare your dignity” line that Eve and Adam fell for!


13 posted on 01/19/2022 10:41:49 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Having the Conch shell is no longer recognized by Dem "Flies" as giving one authority to speak.)
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