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Discussion Regarding: Denial of Natural Immunity in CMS Vaccine Mandate ‘Unprecedented in Modern History’: Scott Atlas
The Epoch Times ^ | 14 January 2022 | Allen Zhong and Jan Jekielek

Posted on 01/15/2022 7:07:42 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg

Denying natural immunity in the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Service (CMS) vaccine mandates is “unprecedented in modern history,” a prominent public health expert said.

Dr. Scott Atlas, a former White House COVID-19 Task Force adviser during the Trump administration, made the remarks after the U.S. Supreme Court (SCOTUS) decide to uphold the CMS vaccine mandates in a Thursday ruling.

He told The Epoch Times that the ruling is “another serious denial of scientific fact” specifically mentioning the denial of natural immunity in CMS vaccine mandates.

(Excerpt) Read more at m.theepochtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid; mandate; medicaid; medicare; ruling; tyranny; vaccine; vaccines
I'm not sure what the rules are regarding posting from The Epoch Times (I've had issues with posting entire articles in the past), so I posted the first three paragraphs. I didn't hit a pay wall, mirrored through (the dreaded) Zero Hedge.

I listed this in chat/discussion because something occurred to me last night, and I wonder why it wasn't mentioned in arguments. I'd like to hear FReepers' thoughts.

The shots are only authorized via EUA, with the exception of Bio-N-Tech, which means that they legally cannot be mandated by the government. However, the BNT shot isn't available in the USA that I'm aware of, so if I'm not wrong on that, how was that argument not made?

Scott's point of noting that natural immunity not even earning an honorable mention is horrifying. I realize that it was said that the trial wasn't about efficacy, but the legality of the mandate.

Thoughts on both points?

1 posted on 01/15/2022 7:07:42 PM PST by Tacrolimus1mg
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

Hitting us right now. We just got over COVID two weeks ago and the wife works at a nursing home that takes medi___. Now she falls under the mandate. I think it’s stupid she should have to get the jab now.

She also had the monoclonal “antibody” infusion and while I was searching for how long one might want to wait between infection and vaccine, I found that the CDC recommends waiting 90 days after mAb infusion to get the vaxx. Glad I stumbled on that and wondering if that will be made clear in the mandate info. Otherwise, a lot of health care workers might be getting the mAb due to rampant Omicron and not know to wait to get the jab.

What will happen to them?

So and so “died suddenly”?

At least I have some ammo for the wife to put off getting the vax for a couple of more months. Something besides the unrecognized natural immunity. Maybe our state, Missouri, will do something by then.

Israel considers a prior case of COVID equal to one of two mRNA shots. They use strictly the two shot Pfizer. The UK and EU also give some credence to prior covid/natural immunity but not the US.


2 posted on 01/15/2022 7:29:22 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

Epoch Times seems fine to post. It just pisses a lot of people off when the article is behind a paywall, myself included. I guess they have a print version and are trying to drive up print subscriptions by blocking some web content.


3 posted on 01/15/2022 7:31:56 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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“What will happen to them? So and so “died suddenly”?

Good grief. MAbs will keep your immune system from learning to create antibodies because they wipe out the virus before that can happen. The waiting period is needed to insure that MAbs have cleared your system so that the vax won’t get “killed” too.


4 posted on 01/15/2022 7:38:39 PM PST by Pelham (Q is short for quack )
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" I think it’s stupid she should have to get the jab now."

Not "stupid" ... "evil beyond imagination".

5 posted on 01/15/2022 7:55:57 PM PST by The Duke (Search for 'Sydney Ducks' and understand what is needed.)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

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6 posted on 01/15/2022 8:05:53 PM PST by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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7 posted on 01/15/2022 9:12:45 PM PST by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%>)
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According to Dr. Malone, if you have had Covid, it’s actually dangerous to get the vax.


8 posted on 01/16/2022 5:48:09 AM PST by Ouch (The only way three people keep a secret is if two of them are dead.)
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Yeah, that’s what I was looking for when I found the info about waiting 90 post mAb infusion before getting the vax.


9 posted on 01/16/2022 5:59:41 AM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- https://youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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10 posted on 01/16/2022 10:01:51 AM PST by null and void (81 million votes ≠ 81 million voters)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

Dr Atlas has written a history of his 4 months working for President Trump in the White House, 2020. I am half way through it now. He is a good thinker and an excellent doctor. His book is “A Plague Upon Our House”.


11 posted on 01/16/2022 12:09:11 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the gov out of medicine, education and forests.)
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To: null and void

Thanks for the ping


12 posted on 01/17/2022 5:53:01 AM PST by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

To read: but Dr Atlas’ book is fantastic story of inside the White House and what was happening behind the scenes, and who the worst ones were.


13 posted on 01/31/2022 12:03:29 PM PST by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the gov out of medicine, education and forests!)
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And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image

Revelation 16 :2


14 posted on 01/31/2022 12:09:12 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image


15 posted on 01/31/2022 12:10:39 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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