Posted on 05/21/2021 5:42:30 AM PDT by DrHFrog
Can the learned Freepers explain to me why it becomes anyone's business whether or not an individual has had the Covid vaccine. Certainly, this should be an individual's choice like every healthcare choice. Why is is not a HIPPA violation for anyone, employers, airlines, cruise lines etc to demand to see proof of vaccination (which is in essence a medical record?)
Wore my mask in Walmart...don’t trust a lot of the cliental and/or workers. But not in other stores.
anyone can ask...then it’s up to you...
Schools have always required vax records for the kiddos as they start school. No problem. Except for a few weirdo parents who don’t vaccinate their kids.
But those vaccines are APPROVED safe inoculations.
There’s no way anyone can argue that Covid vaccines are completely safe. They are not FDA approved.
Tyrant, dictators, and totalitarians make everything their business. Since they enforce the laws, or willingly fail to enforce the laws as the case may be, then any institution they chose will receive selective enforcement. It becomes ad hoc to whatever the tyrant wants. This is why they don’t prosecut rioters “on their side”, only rioters “on the other side”.
If we had a fair media, this would be extremely difficult.
Since the court system is also now under this umbrella of corruption, there is no recourse.
Welcome to 1984. Many people warned us this day was coming. “This day” is here. The totalitarian socialst dictators are all in and going like gang busters to oppress us. I don’t see any stopping it except through the cartridge box, which I don’t see being used before it is too late. Therefore, there is no stopping it.
This is the tyranny the Founding Fathers well warned us about. You can thank your fellow Americans for selling us out. Of course, the New World Order made a full court press in destroying our institutions and balkanizing us to achieve “divide and conquer”, but ultimately your fellow Americans who didn’t zealously guard lilberty, caused this.
The door to this opened a long time ago.
Do you want to get married in the eyes of the government? You need to be tested for syphilis.
Do you want your children to attend public schools? Mumps, Measles, Rubella vaccinations required.
Are you a Christian Scientist with a child suffering from leukemia? Do think it is important that your child not get chemotherapy? Well, the government doesn’t care and they will force your child to take chemotherapy and put you in prison if you cause a fuss.
Liberals tend to like lots of government rules about what you can and cannot do with your body.
Conservatives tend to be more in favor of individual freedom, but anyone who has spent time on this board has seen heated medical discussions between Conservatives about how much government control is good, and how much individual freedom is bad. People disagree.
The COVID vaccines bring this out pretty starkly because they are new, they are experimental, and many people have been convinced that this is an emergency and we all need to act super fast and we don’t have time to think about it or examine our principles. We just need to do as we’re told.
My view is that I choose to avoid the vaccines. I think if someone wants the vaccine that is their choice. I think that neither employers nor the government should mandate vaccines.
But other Conservatives hold other views.
Since when does FDA approval make something safe?
The FDA is why we our food is being flooded high-fructose corn syrup and soybean oil. Not safe. The FDA works for the Chamber of Commerce these days. They could give a rats ass if something is safe. It is a con game these days.
Anyway, my vaccination status is nobody's business. Those who got the vaccination should now be "safe" regardless of whether others had it or not. Otherwise, why did they take the vaccination in the first place?
Getting vaccinated is a person’s choice, and no one should be forced to.
But if health information is in the interest of your employer, they can make getting it a condition of employment.
For instance air line pilots have to provide proof of good health every six months.
Bingo!
If you want to get vaxxed, then do it.
I do not understand why the so called “vaxxed” are so worried about those that choose not to do it? After all they have immunization according to the vaxxed. So they have nothing to worry about.
My body my choice.
The fact its being pushed so hard to people not sick is a big red flag.
This demand for personal medical information by people and companies should be no more allowed as is asking about criminal history, marital status, pregnancy and a plethora of other personal matters. But for now, to boil it down to its essence, the reason for much of what continues even after the Communist Chinese Cooties should, in reality, no longer be the concern it was for more than a year, is that a year of living with fear, forced masking and loss of personal responsibility and control has made American women and "men" scared, angry, demanding and, especially, distrustful of everyone and everything: A measure of what politicians, unelected bureaucrats and "experts" have done -- purposefully and with mal intent -- to our society and to our American quality of life.
Belated WELCOME ABOARD! : )
This is like German Jews claiming there must be a mistake. After all “look at this Iron cross I got for bravery in WWI“.
They were too slow to recognize that the old nation was gone forever and a new dictatorship was in town.
Not if it’s an “experimental” vaccine they cannot.
The mRNA has not been fully tested. Everyone taking it is a lab rat, because no one knows the long term effects.
If the mRNA history over the last 20 years is consistent. All you vaxxed will be dead within 2 to 5 years. This is why no mRNA was ever approved by the FDA in the last 20 years.
I do hope that any company demanding this. Should not only be civilly sued but criminally. They are pure violation of the many laws such as HIPPA, American Disabilities act, International law, the Geneva conventions and the Nuremberg Code.
It is criminal.
Here the good news. There will be A LOT of vaccines in 2 to 5 years and then they will have to hire those not vaxxed. Of course I am expecting them to “I did not know”.
Still, I agree that it up to each individual to decide whether or not to be vaccinated, and no businesses should be asking for proof of vaccination.
But we now live in a world where a small portion of activists believe they need to manage the lives of everyone.
Most employers make you share medical info because of health insurance.
You sound like a good Dr HFrog
Have taken vaccines all my nearly 70 years, with no incidents, but question the logic of taking a non-approved experimental injection involving a new technology (mRNA), for something that has a 99% + recovery rate, while wagging one’s finger at those who refuse.
People don’t understand hipaa.
It’s illegal for Healthcare workers to share your info without your consent. It’s not illegal for others to ask certain questions. Especially during a pandemic where a health emergency has been declared.
I don’t like it. But I’m just educating People on the way it is.
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