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The Wuhan Lab and the Virus: The Dr. Fauci, Rand Paul Debate Fact-Checked and Explained
Newsweek ^ | ON 5/14/21 AT 4:00 AM EDT | BY FRED GUTERL

Posted on 05/16/2021 6:32:27 PM PDT by RandFan

Paul: Instead, government authorities, self-interested in continuing gain-of-function research, say there's nothing to see here.

There may be some truth to the assertion of self-interest. The international community of virologists is relatively small, and they tend to know one another. Peter Daszak, head of EcoHealth Alliance, which has been the main conduit for NIH research funds on coronaviruses to the Wuhan lab in China, and has worked closely with scientists in China, has been criticized for having a conflict of interest in his role as a member of the World Health Organization team that investigated the origins of SARS-CoV-2. More widely, scientists who do GOF research may be more confident about the safety of their work than the long history of lab accidents would suggest. Authorities at the NIH and elsewhere have tended to side with the natural-origin theory, the most salient counter-example being Robert Redfield, who cast his lot in with the GOF crowd shortly after stepping down as the head of the Centers for Disease Control. But it would stretch credulity to imply any significant monetary self-interest.

Paul: To arrive at the truth, the U.S. government should admit that the Wuhan Virology Institute was experimenting to enhance the coronavirus' ability to infect humans.

The Wuhan Institute of Virology, under the direction of Dr. Shi Zengli, was clearly doing GOF experiments before the pandemic arose. But GOF work is now commonplace. The real scandal is not that the Wuhan Institute was doing GOF work, it's that everyone does it. That, and not the Wuhan lab origin theory, is what we should all be arguing about.............

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; coverup; covid19; covid1984; cultureofcorruption; fauci; gainoffunction; gof; libsplaining; newsweak; newsweek; pandemic; randpaul; spikeprotein; wuhan; wuhanlab
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This is quite a long "fact check" and analysis. Anyone who is following this issue closely please check it out (click excerpt) and see what you think...
1 posted on 05/16/2021 6:32:27 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Newsweek “fact checkers”? What’s the problem...weren’t there any Amazon Compost “fact checkers” available?


2 posted on 05/16/2021 6:39:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Trump: "They're After You. I'm Just In The Way")
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To: All

Another snip I found interesting because it shows even Newsweek think Fauci is being very careful with his wording:


Paul: You don’t think inserting a bat-virus spike protein that [Baric] got from the Wuhan Institute into the SARS virus is gain-of-function? You would be in a minority because at least two scientists have signed a statement from the Cambridge Working Group saying that it is gain-of-function.

False, says Marc Lipsitch, the Harvard epidemiologist and one of the original members of the Cambridge Working Group. “It is just a fabrication to say we have made any statement as a group about work in Wuhan.”

Fauci: Well, it is not. If you look at the grant and you look at the progress reports, it is not gain-of-function, despite the fact that people tweet that and write about it.

In an interview last year, Baric maintained that some work that involves enhancing viruses in the lab turns out to produce viruses that are actually less viable than what experimenters started with, so they haven’t necessarily “gained” any “function.” This is probably what Dr. Fauci is referring to.


3 posted on 05/16/2021 6:49:19 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

They sure have to use a lot of weasel words to come up with a “false” on many of Paul’s statements.


4 posted on 05/16/2021 6:50:36 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: RandFan

Now there’s a deflection. “The real story is not that the Wuhans were doing GOF research — the real story is that EVERYONE does it. Presto! Nullification.

The fallacy of it is that no one else’s lab released death and depression onto the world. So let me deflect back to the Rand Paul assertion. Plenty of smoke, plenty of fire, plenty of there-there.


5 posted on 05/16/2021 7:04:02 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: RandFan; Fred Nerks

The fact is that Fai=uci was out of control. If any president knew clearly what Fauci was doinig, he would have been stopped.

ut like a borrowing parasite, Fauci manipulated funding to assure that the dangerous research was done, and secondly that his own ass was covered,

Fauci is parsing his words very closley now, meaning that he knows that he bears both responsibility and liability for traducing his own nation.

Rand Paul needs to hit him hard with facts. NOW.


6 posted on 05/16/2021 7:10:33 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism:http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html) )
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To: Migraine
Everyone does it, but only China released it. Then allowed outward travel from Wuhan, but halted inward travel.

I'm sure if the release had happened from an American lab that had been doing forbidden research, Newsweek would have been quick to say "everyone does it."

7 posted on 05/16/2021 7:11:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: RandFan
The real scandal is not that the Wuhan Institute was doing GOF work, it's that everyone does it.

BUT, BUT, BUT, EVERYONE DOES IT! Sounds like the argument a teenager makes to their parents.

8 posted on 05/16/2021 7:15:24 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: the_Watchman

Anyone that does gof experiments in the USA is BREAKING the LAW.


9 posted on 05/16/2021 7:25:40 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Candor7

Nothing will happen.

Don’t fool yourself.

Rand is right, but there are no consequences.

The elites released a man-made pandemic virus, no consequences.

The election was stolen, no consequences.


10 posted on 05/16/2021 7:37:26 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: browniexyz; Candor7

We know the truth though and we have a responsibility to get it out there and keep pecking away.


11 posted on 05/16/2021 7:45:38 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan
Hm.

More agenda-driven journalism from Newsweek. It's a shame. They have actually printed some good stuff recently, including an article by John Lott.

There is much more detail and objectivity in this excellent long article by Nicholas Wade:

https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-people-or-nature-open-pandoras-box-at-wuhan/

Wade does not cut Fauci any slack.

12 posted on 05/16/2021 7:48:17 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Candor7

SENT TO ME BY EMAIL:

Posted on May 16, 2021
COVER UP? Wuhan Lab DELETES Connections To Fauci And N.I.H. From Website
According to a report from The National Pulse, The Wuhan Virology Lab has removed connections to Fauci and The N.I.H. from its webpages.
If it looks like a coverup then it just may be.

http://techviewnews.com/cover-up-wuhan-lab-deletes-connections-to-fauci-and-n-i-h-from-website/?fbclid=IwAR0k20W_qhg9eg877TzbSUb7nX2cD2ipMWHsuohP_gPKRJWabm39zdXdhwE


13 posted on 05/16/2021 7:48:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Candor7

Great post by the way Candor. They admit Trump admin shut him down. Then they moved it to Wuhan through this complex web.

The facts are coming out slowly but surely. Rand has got his number that’s for sure. He can detect Fauci’s BS like the rest of us..


14 posted on 05/16/2021 7:52:13 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Baric maintained that some work that involves enhancing viruses in the lab turns out to produce viruses that are actually less viable than what experimenters started with, so they haven’t necessarily “gained” any “function.”

yeah??? well, it’s not for a lack of trying


15 posted on 05/16/2021 7:53:14 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: Fred Nerks

Fred:

have you seen this video:

https://banned.video/watch?id=609af3cbb493572075b0c04a

I believe Tucker showed some of it this week on his show..


16 posted on 05/16/2021 7:56:25 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: TChad

Tchad:

Daszak is on video bragging about creating coronaviruses:

https://banned.video/watch?id=609af3cbb493572075b0c04a

From the article you posted :

Virologists like Daszak had much at stake in the assigning of blame for the pandemic. For 20 years, mostly beneath the public’s attention, they had been playing a dangerous game. In their laboratories they routinely created viruses more dangerous than those that exist in nature. They argued that they could do so safely, and that by getting ahead of nature they could predict and prevent natural “spillovers,” the cross-over of viruses from an animal host to people. If SARS2 had indeed escaped from such a laboratory experiment, a savage blowback could be expected, and the storm of public indignation would affect virologists everywhere, not just in China. “It would shatter the scientific edifice top to bottom,” an MIT Technology Review editor, Antonio Regalado, said in March 2020.


17 posted on 05/16/2021 8:00:10 PM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

As I noted in this comment last week

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3959012/posts?page=27#27

Fauxi didn’t technically lie. It’s not about ‘gain of function’ (GOF), but GOF research of concern (GOFROC).

It’s Newsweak; spdr.


18 posted on 05/16/2021 8:05:57 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: RandFan

Newsweek, LMAO!!!


19 posted on 05/16/2021 8:07:40 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: RandFan
Daszak is on video bragging about creating coronaviruses.

I'd like to see Daszak be grilled by Ron Paul in a Senate hearing.

Dr. Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance of New York, with Dr. Anthony Fauci

20 posted on 05/16/2021 8:08:46 PM PDT by TChad
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