Posted on 04/01/2021 2:25:13 PM PDT by RandFan
A paramedic who testified at the trial of Derek Chauvin on Thursday criticized Minneapolis police officers for not doing chest compressions on George Floyd at the scene, saying “any layperson can do chest compressions.”
The criticism came during defense attorney Eric Nelson's cross examination of Derek Smith, the paramedic.
“Any layperson can do chest compressions. There’s no reason Minneapolis couldn’t have started chest compressions,” Smith told Nelson as the defense attorney questioned him over treatment offered to Floyd in the back of an ambulance after paramedics arrived on the scene.
Smith testified on the fourth day in the trial of Chauvin, who is being charged with three criminal counts in connection to Floyd’s death: second-degree murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter.
Floyd died during an arrest outside a Minneapolis convenience store after Chauvin pinned him to the street, kneeling on his neck for nearly nine minutes.
Video captured the incident and led to demonstrations and protests across the country over the summer calling for police reform and racial equality.
Nelson noted that a Minneapolis police officer rode in the back of the ambulance and began chest compressions on Floyd at Smith’s direction.
Nelson then asked if the ambulance drove to a second location so that the paramedic driving the vehicle could join him in the rig of the truck and “take over for the officer.”
Smith disagreed with that description, telling Nelson it was “not to take over, we needed everybody we could at that time.”
Nelson went on to ask why Smith did not have the officer in the ambulance continue to help him, that way the vehicle could go straight to the hospital, to which Smith responded “that’s not what we do.”
“Is it because he’s not an EMT?” Nelson asked.
After a short pause, Smith responded that any one could give chest compressions.
Nelson, after asserting “that’s not my question,” restated his original EMT question, to which Smith responded that he did not know the level of certification of the officer in the ambulance.
When asked if Smith wanted a "partner" who could help him, Smith responded, "I wanted as many people that were willing to help me at that time to work this cardiac arrest."
He overdosed u lefty prop ,’
The edema that swelled his lungs up about three times the normal size from the dope did “compressing” for him.
Any layperson with training or under the supervision of medical personnel.
Drove to a second location?? I don’t get it? Only one person can do compressions at a time.
“Any lay person can do chest compressions”. I had to stop reading and question the validity of my yearly cpr requals for the past 40 years.. I mean, if its so simple even a caveman could do it....... //S . If yi6u see me having a heart attack and you dont know what you are doing, please,. Please just let me die. I dont want to die with a dumb ass on top of me. Im hoping heaven screens them out.
During those nine minutes, Floyd was talking. He was saying he can't breathe...But if you're talking, you can breathe. Floyd is a HUGE guy....high as a kite and with a heart condition.
I'm tired of watching druggies being turned into heroes.
Also...I think I heard it right...There were two other people in the car when the cops got to Floyd. They hopped out. I believe the media said that they're druggies, too.
look beyond the hyperbole of what has happened in this trial so far....
Notice the Medical Examiner has not been called, why ??
the ME will determine what George Floyd died from was it asphyxiation or a drug overdose, I think it’s very telling the prosecution is putting people on who claim to be traumatized over the death of George Floyd versus what actually killed him.....
This case is not all that difficult to prosecute, it doesn’t take more than a few days to prosecute this case, unless the State realizes they have no case and is trying throw BS at the wall hoping some of it sticks....
We are a long way from “racist cop went out hunting blacks and killed Saint George.” The rioting is going to be epic.
Any last person can do chest compressions? And what happens when that “lay person” starts breaking ribs?
geez they’re in enough trouble for doing neck compression...
A cracked sternum, damaged cartilage, and cracked or broken ribs is quite common when doing chest compressions. You have to compress the chest roughly 2" for it to be sufficient to circulate the blood and it takes about 60lbs of force to get that compression. We are told every time we take a class that we're likely to hear and feel the cracking and to not give up. Better alive with broken or cracked ribs than dead.
Is she a paramedic or an emt? there is a large educational difference between the two.
Rattling on about ‘checking for a pulse’ reminds me of the antifa ‘medics’ who screams at the credentialed paramedics in Portland like those paramedics don’t know what they’re doing.
“We do NOT recommend that lay public rescuers waste time trying to assess for a palpable pulse. During Dr. Kern’s tenure as AHA National ACLS Chairman, the AHA came to the same conclusion. Public lay rescuers cannot reliably detect the absence of a pulse in a timely fashion, hence in the 2000 and 2005 AHA CPR Guidelines (Circulation 2005; 112(24): IV-3), this requirement was removed.
Studies have also shown that even if a person manages to locate the correct spot for detecting a pulse, there is a high chance that the pulse they may detect is their own, especially considering heightened stress levels in such situations. “
https://heart.arizona.edu/heart-health/learn-cpr/frequently-asked-questions-about-chest-compression-only-cpr
Until those broken ribs and sternum result in a flail-chest.
sorry, I should have read the article. I was talking the girl emt and, duh, this is the male emt who redirected the ambulance to stop and wait for his buddy
It happens. Even with nurses.
I have been trained in cpr for almost 40 years, I have performed it twice, one was my mother-in-law on Christmas Day. Both died. They have simplified it to the point everyone in our society could be proficient.
On a lighter side, the female prosecutor, Erin Eldridge while questioning witnesses , has used the term “i WILL CIRCLE BACK ON THAT” multiple times. She is full liberal mode and I am guessing who her heroine is........
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