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Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus
PLOS ONE ^ | April 2012 | hien-Te Tseng, Elena Sbrana, Naoko Iwata-Yoshikawa, Patrick C. Newman, Tania Garron, Robert L. Atmar

Posted on 03/31/2021 4:47:08 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

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To: Jan_Sobieski

Bkmk


21 posted on 03/31/2021 5:44:31 PM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: steve86

I’ve been telling people about this for years, it mainly falls on deaf ears.


22 posted on 03/31/2021 5:46:06 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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To: dforest

“Makes you wonder why the flu shots given to seniors this year was 4x the usual dose.”


That strength has been available to seniors for years. There is a new quadrivalent vaccine with 4x the strength of each antigen this year. In the past it has been a trivalent shot with 4x the strength of each antigen.


23 posted on 03/31/2021 6:09:59 PM PDT by Ken H (Trump won.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; ...

Didn’t the people who made the SARS-COV-2 mRNA shots have a way of preventing this overreaction?

Coronavirus PING!


24 posted on 03/31/2021 6:13:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (GOP-free since 10/9/20)
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To: P-Marlowe

If I run across it again I will reply. But remember, only correlation. More affluent people, healthier and more mobile people get flu shots. Lots of confounding.


25 posted on 03/31/2021 6:18:22 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: jonrick46; ifinnegan

The question in reply 24, above.


26 posted on 03/31/2021 6:19:44 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
From another idiot anti-vaxxer thread:

Non‐human primate studies of Moderna's mRNA‐1273 vaccine showed excellent protection, with no detectable immunopathology.13 Phase 1 trials of several vaccines have not reported any immunopathology in subjects administered the candidate vaccines.

Wish the people who want to be idiots about the vaccines (which excludes those with reasonable doubt) would read each other's threads.

27 posted on 03/31/2021 6:31:12 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

For a year now I’ve been wondering why all this fuss about a virus that’s about 98 percent survivable.
Unprecedented restrictions on our rights, masks, lockdowns of healthy people, experimental vaccines being urged and there’s serious talk of them being mandatory...why?
And now I’m hearing that there may be some meaningful correlation of prior flu vaccines and the severity of covid.
It’s a good thing I’m not cynical or paranoid. Yet.


28 posted on 03/31/2021 6:47:08 PM PDT by Buttons12 ( )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Didn’t the people who made the SARS-COV-2 mRNA shots have a way of preventing this overreaction?
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From what I recall, this was why there was no SARs rollout. Also the inability to come up with a viable vaccine was one reason that the scientists told the NIH that they questioned the desirability of continuing such research.


29 posted on 03/31/2021 6:47:13 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: mrsmith
This is VAERS set to show all deaths reported since 1980 for all vaccines. Remember some of these vaccines have been in use for decades, and on many hundreds of millions of people. The covid vaccines have been in use for five months.


Total4,972
DEATHTotal4,972
DEATHCOVID19 (COVID19 (MODERNA)) (1201)871
DEATHCOVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) (1200)794
DEATHPNEUMO (PREVNAR13) (1141)314
DEATHROTAVIRUS (ROTATEQ) (1096)248
DEATHDTAP + HEPB + IPV (PEDIARIX) (1082)198
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (NO BRAND NAME) (44)182
DEATHPNEUMO (PREVNAR) (1001)171
DEATHHPV (GARDASIL) (1098)167
DEATHDTAP + IPV + HIB (PENTACEL) (1125)160
DEATHHIB (ACTHIB) (256)120
DEATHZOSTER LIVE (ZOSTAVAX) (1097)119
DEATHHIB (PEDVAXHIB) (129)108
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUZONE) (7)89
DEATHPNEUMO (PNEUMOVAX) (30)79
DEATHMEASLES + MUMPS + RUBELLA (MMR II) (26)74
DEATHHEP B (ENGERIX-B) (38)73
DEATHHEP B (RECOMBIVAX HB) (25)66
DEATHVARICELLA (VARIVAX) (269)66
DEATHROTAVIRUS (ROTARIX) (1124)65
DEATHDTAP (DAPTACEL) (1064)47
DEATHVACCINE NOT SPECIFIED (NO BRAND NAME) (999)46
DEATHZOSTER (SHINGRIX) (1192)44
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUZONE HIGH-DOSE) (1145)43
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUZONE QUADRIVALENT) (1162)41
DEATHPOLIO VIRUS, INACT. (IPOL) (1030)41
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUVIRIN) (262)37
DEATHHEP A (HAVRIX) (268)33
DEATHINFLUENZA (H1N1) (H1N1 (MONOVALENT) (SANOFI)) (1132)30
DEATHMENINGOCOCCAL CONJUGATE (MENACTRA) (1090)29
DEATHDTAP (INFANRIX) (286)27
DEATHHPV (NO BRAND NAME) (1102)25
DEATHTDAP (ADACEL) (1092)24
DEATHMENINGOCOCCAL (NO BRAND NAME) (113)23
DEATHHEP B (NO BRAND NAME) (110)23
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUARIX QUADRIVALENT) (1161)21
DEATHHEP A (VAQTA) (280)21
DEATHHPV (GARDASIL 9) (1170)19
DEATHDTAP (NO BRAND NAME) (258)18
DEATHINFLUENZA (H1N1) (H1N1 (MONOVALENT) (NOVARTIS)) (1133)17
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLULAVAL) (1101)16
DEATHPNEUMO (NO BRAND NAME) (120)16
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUMIST) (1085)16
DEATHTDAP (BOOSTRIX) (1091)16
DEATHHIB (HIBERIX) (916)13
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (AFLURIA) (1121)13
DEATHINFLUENZA (H1N1) (H1N1 (MONOVALENT) (UNKNOWN)) (1135)13
DEATHCOVID19 (COVID19 (JANSSEN)) (1203)13
DEATHMEASLES + MUMPS + RUBELLA + VARICELLA (PROQUAD) (1094)12
DEATHDTP (NO BRAND NAME) (2)12
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUZONE HIGH-DOSE QUADRIVALENT) (1199)11
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUARIX) (1089)10
DEATHHIB (NO BRAND NAME) (111)10
DEATHTDAP (NO BRAND NAME) (1104)9
DEATHINFLUENZA (H1N1) (H1N1 (MONOVALENT) (MEDIMMUNE)) (1131)9
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (QIV DRESDEN) (1187)9
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLULAVAL QUADRIVALENT) (1166)8
DEATHPOLIO VIRUS, INACT. (NO BRAND NAME) (232)8
DEATHVACCINE NOT SPECIFIED (OTHER) (998)7
DEATHDTAP + IPV (KINRIX) (1126)7
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUMIST QUADRIVALENT) (1160)7
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (AFLURIA QUADRIVALENT) (1177)6
DEATHHIB + HEP B (COMVAX) (287)6
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUAD) (1173)6
DEATHMEASLES + MUMPS + RUBELLA (NO BRAND NAME) (114)6
DEATHROTAVIRUS (NO BRAND NAME) (1099)6
DEATHCOVID19 (COVID19 (UNKNOWN)) (1202)6
DEATHYELLOW FEVER (YF-VAX) (14)6
DEATHDTAP (TRIPEDIA) (242)5
DEATHZOSTER (NO BRAND NAME) (1103)5
DEATHHEP B (FOREIGN) (24)5
DEATHHEP A + HEP B (TWINRIX) (1009)5
DEATHPOLIO VIRUS, ORAL (NO BRAND NAME) (118)5
DEATHTD ADSORBED (NO BRAND NAME) (11)5
DEATHANTHRAX (BIOTHRAX) (1008)5
DEATHMENINGOCOCCAL B (BEXSERO) (1165)5
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUCELVAX QUADRIVALENT) (1175)4
DEATHTYPHOID VI POLYSACCHARIDE (TYPHIM VI) (271)4
DEATHTETANUS TOXOID (NO BRAND NAME) (12)4
DEATHMENINGOCOCCAL CONJUGATE (MENVEO) (1140)4
DEATHMENINGOCOCCAL (MENOMUNE) (8)4
DEATHDTAP+IPV+HEPB+HIB (NO BRAND NAME) (1111)3
DEATHBCG (NO BRAND NAME) (102)3
DEATHRABIES (NO BRAND NAME) (57)3
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUBLOK QUADRIVALENT) (1176)3
DEATHHEP A (NO BRAND NAME) (279)3
DEATHYELLOW FEVER (NO BRAND NAME) (224)3
DEATHMEASLES (ATTENUVAX) (28)2
DEATHMEASLES + MUMPS + RUBELLA + VARICELLA (NO BRAND NAME) (1106)2
DEATHVARICELLA (NO BRAND NAME) (1062)2
DEATHPOLIO VIRUS, INACT. (POLIOVAX) (9)2
DEATHLYME (LYMERIX) (302)2
DEATHRABIES (IMOVAX) (33)2
DEATHDT ADSORBED (NO BRAND NAME) (3)2
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUCELVAX) (1159)2
DEATHDTAP + IPV + HIB (NO BRAND NAME) (1149)2
DEATHADENOVIRUS TYPES 4 & 7, LIVE, ORAL (NO BRAND NAME) (1155)1
DEATHHEP B (HEPLISAV-B) (1193)1
DEATHPERTUSSIS (NO BRAND NAME) (60)1
DEATHRABIES (RABAVERT) (294)1
DEATHDTAP + HIB (NO BRAND NAME) (285)1
DEATHPNEUMO (PNU-IMUNE) (16)1
DEATHDTP + HIB (NO BRAND NAME) (263)1
DEATHHEP A + HEP B (NO BRAND NAME) (1114)1
DEATHDTAP + HEPB + IPV (NO BRAND NAME) (1110)1
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLU-IMUNE) (201)1
DEATHMUMPS (MUMPSVAX II) (1018)1
DEATHDTP + HEP B (NO BRAND NAME) (1112)1
DEATHTD ADSORBED (TENIVAC) (1158)1
DEATHHIB POLYSACCHARIDE (HIBIMUNE) (23)1
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUZONE INTRADERMAL) (1152)1
DEATHSMALLPOX (ACAM2000) (1122)1
DEATHVARICELLA (VARILRIX) (1048)1
DEATHHIB (HIBTITER) (35)1
DEATHTYPHOID LIVE ORAL TY21A (VIVOTIF) (81)1
DEATHHPV (CERVARIX) (1136)1
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUENZ) (1190)1
DEATHMENINGOCOCCAL B (TRUMENBA) (1169)1
DEATHSMALLPOX (NO BRAND NAME) (10)1
DEATHDTP + HIB (DTP + ACTHIB) (1024)1
DEATHINFLUENZA (H1N1) (H1N1 (MONOVALENT) (CSL)) (1134)1
DEATHINFLUENZA (SEASONAL) (FLUAD QUADRIVALENT) (1198)1


30 posted on 03/31/2021 7:10:26 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: PGalt

God Bless! Praying for you.


31 posted on 03/31/2021 7:11:00 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: dynoman

I assume that like me you see that as very good since these vaccines were given to over a hundred million of our most frail and old.

Thanks for posting the deaths.
That’s the only metric I’ve found useful about this virus, Everything else can be, and often is, manipulated. Now that deaths are plummeting media is hyping “cases”.


32 posted on 03/31/2021 7:19:40 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: mrsmith
Why so angry, bro?

Are you saying you believe a quote from an “idiot anti-vaxxer thread?”
33 posted on 03/31/2021 7:21:30 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

The quote is from the cited study Joan.


34 posted on 03/31/2021 7:26:01 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

That technical approach (using whole coronavirus vaccine) was abandoned years ago.

None of the major vaccine candidates for COVID-19 around the world use that approach, and none that were included in Operation Warp Speed.


35 posted on 03/31/2021 7:41:26 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: Jan_Sobieski; aMorePerfectUnion; 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; ...
Infectious Disease ping - An argument against world-wide covid-19 vaccinations and its aftereffects
An alternative perspective that you won't find anywhere else

Immunization with SARS Coronavirus Vaccines Leads to Pulmonary Immunopathology on Challenge with the SARS Virus

Jan Sobieski : “ The 2012 Study showed that Coronavirus Vaccines protected against the original strain,
but then created immunopathology in the test subjects causing them to be hypersensitive to future Coronaviruses.
All test subjects succumbed to Coronaviruses later.
If indeed a feature of Coronavirus Vaccines is a hypersensitivity to future Coronaviruses, then they are already preparing us for a Coronavirus booster.
Each year Vaccinated individuals will have to get a successive vaccine or they may die of Covid-22, or Covid-23. Hence, that year identifier.

“The Elites have known this for 8 years. They strategized and plotted how they could implement this vaccine “feature” with Event 201 as the kickoff.
There is no downside for Big Pharma / Medical Establishment / Deep State.
Any new hypersensitivity deaths can be blamed on a new strain. Which is half right!
The other half of the story is that the vaccine caused the vulnerability.
You will not hear this reported in the enemedia. Get ready and Caveat Emptor “

See Also :
Posted by : aMorePerfectUnion :( from the Washington Gazette ) :

"BREAKING: Dr. Fauci Admits COVID Vaccine May Not Be Safe "
3/31/21

https://www.thewashingtongazette.com/2021/03/breaking-dr-fauci-admits-covid-vaccine.html?utm_source=saidit&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialshare&m=1

36 posted on 03/31/2021 7:42:10 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Very happy to have caught the Wuhan in the wild.


37 posted on 03/31/2021 7:47:27 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: mrsmith

Prevnar was approved in 2010, it’s had 27000 adverse reaction reports, 314 of those are death. It’s been in use for 11 years.

Now let’s look at the adverse reaction reports for the covid vaccines, which have been given over the last five months. There have been 44,464 adverse reaction reports, death is 1627 of those.

The covid vaccines adverse reaction reports are running 1.65-1 over prevnar, and the deaths are running 5.18 over prevnar, in just five months!!


38 posted on 03/31/2021 7:49:37 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

This potential effect was reported on Fox news, early one, before the vax warp speed was even started. It was also reported as a reason why SARs vaccine was not rolled out in USA.


39 posted on 03/31/2021 7:53:19 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: dynoman

Out of a hundred million of our oldest and most frail.
So, like I said, I assume we both think that’s pretty good- so far.


40 posted on 03/31/2021 7:54:38 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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