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COVID-19 Vaccine: What Side Effects — or No Side Effects — Mean; Everyone's body responds to vaccines differently.
Discover Magazine ^ | 03/23/2021 | Leslie Nemo

Posted on 03/23/2021 9:33:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: doorgunner69
Trying to be dense or did someone piss in your post toasties?

Calm down! I was addressing a larger issue, which many here at FR consider serious.

Regards,

41 posted on 03/24/2021 12:40:38 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve now learned of two more large scale rash reactions, delayed 7-10 days, but lasting several days in those cases. These seem to lean a little more toward shingles-like symptoms. Both are one person removed from me, that is, I know a person who knows the person affected. One is a person who received the Pfizer vaccine, the other, Moderna. In both cases, the person’s PCP appears to be aware of this type delayed reaction that is not a site location reaction. I’ve not searched more for a couple days, so as of 3/22 I’d not seen anything online about it.


42 posted on 03/24/2021 1:33:36 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

I should clarify: “...delayed 7-10 days after a 2nd shot”...


43 posted on 03/24/2021 1:44:43 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Ken H

After my second Pfizer jab I had one day of muscle aches then one day of tiredness then fine by third day


44 posted on 03/24/2021 2:44:31 PM PDT by UB355 (Slow Traffic keep right)
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To: grey_whiskers

Yep. It’s a site that exploits the fact that most people have no reason to know how DNA and RNA work.


45 posted on 03/24/2021 2:45:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: Babba Gi

That strong reaction to the 2nd shot is actually a good sign.

It’s indicating that the first shot trained your immune system to recognize the virus. Your antibodies identified the 2nd vaccine and attacked it. Now they will be ready if you ever contract the virus itself.


46 posted on 03/24/2021 2:56:12 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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To: House Atreides
Thanks for the information and details. However, that still doesn't change the two primary reasons I will not be getting the vaccine.

One, it is direct genetic manipulation of the immune system. My concern with that is primarily with quality control during the large-scale manufacture of the mRNA. Initial doses made "by hand" in the lab for the trials are one thing. Producing industrial quantities is another. Yes I realize that is what pharmaceutical company's business is and they're good at it but... Scaling up almost always involves a few lessons of it's own. If there are issues with manufacturing can "the message" get garbled and change? Your information does ease some concerns I have. Perhaps at worst a garbled message just produces ineffective antigens.

Two, it is brand new, never been tried on this scale before technology. The first two covid-19 mRNA based vaccines are in fact the first mRNA based vaccines to ever be approved by the FDA. Even that approval is on a emergency/experimental basis.

Given our track record as a species with developing new technologies or even simply trying new things in any field it is a safe bet that there is something wrong with those mRNA based vaccines. Yes it is possible we "got it right" on the first try, but history and statistics are on my side - there is something wrong with them. We just don't know what it is yet.

If we're lucky, extremely lucky, in five or ten years covid-19 will only be something we bore our kids and grandkids with as we tell stories of "the lost year."

If we're nominally lucky, in five or ten years we'll have figured out that mRNA vaccines work fairly well but need some tweaking and oh by the way we'll need booster shots every five or ten years.

If Murphy raises his head, in five or ten years the news will be about how the new growth industry is building and staffing long-term care facilities for the double-digit millions of people with debilitating immunological side effects that are only just now coming to light. The top news story will be the newly signed "Mayo Clinic Accords" that severely regulate and restrict mRNA based vaccines and other uses of the technology.

I believe it is likely we are simply headed for the middle-ground case where we learn a few things, tweak a few things, and move on. In these kinds of things though I am very risk-averse so I am going to opt into the control group and not get the vaccine.

47 posted on 03/25/2021 4:55:49 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Biden/Harris - illegitimate and everyone knows it.)
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To: doorgunner69
Wife browbeat me into the moderna shot due to travel interests.

Mine is trying to crybully me into getting it as well. We had it and recovered, but she's insisting that our kid won't let us visit our youngest grandson unless we have it.

48 posted on 03/27/2021 10:22:09 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Pelham

You’re wrong.

Didn’t you read https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/covid-19-news-harvard-and-mit-study-alarmingly-shows-that-sars-cov-2-rna-integrates-into-human-genome-with-varying-implications?

Quote: A new study by researchers from Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research-Cambridge, Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering-Harvard University, Department of Biology-Massachusetts Institute of Technology and the John A. Paulson School of Engineering and Applied Sciences-Harvard University have alarmingly discovered that the SARS-CoV-2 RNA is reverse-transcribed and integrated into the human genome.

I think your rectocranial inversion is inoperable.


49 posted on 04/13/2021 5:36:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

“I think your rectocranial inversion is inoperable.”

If so I’d be your twin, but I’m not.

“mRNA (in the case of the RNA-based vaccine) will remain in the cytoplasm and will not enter into the nucleus, where the host DNA resides. And importantly, humans do not have the required reverse transcriptase (that is usually encoded by retroviral viruses) to actually reverse transcribe the RNA into DNA for its genomic incorporation.”


50 posted on 04/13/2021 10:29:07 PM PDT by Pelham (Liberate the Democrats from their Communist occupation)
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