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Illinois tolls were supposed to be temporary. A progressive tax is only supposed to hurt 3% of Illinoisans. Political promises mean little in Illinois.
Illinois Policy ^ | September 17, 2020 | Ben Szalinski

Posted on 12/07/2020 3:36:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: asinclair

“...The original tax rate was one percent. Then two percent. Then it went upwards throughout the 20th century....”

And look where the greedy bassturds got it up to now...and wanting more!!!
They won’t be satisfied until they take it ALL, and the “unwashed masses” are left to grovel at their feet begging for a breadcrumb.
Whoever came up with the idea of taxing the fruits of a person’s labor and their property has a very special place in hell.


21 posted on 12/07/2020 4:12:00 PM PST by lgjhn23 (Libs are a virus.....the DemoVirus!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve always wondered about tolls. I mean, don’t state taxes supposedly partly go for the upkeeep of the roads? Also, weren’t the state lotteries also to do the same? Why then the need for tolls?


22 posted on 12/07/2020 4:17:41 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The New York Thruway tolls were only supposed to be temporary too. Now they’ve removed all the toll booths, and the jobs that went with them, and installed cameras for EZ Pass, or being billed directly. My niece got a bill for a toll charge, for a trip she never took. It was a small amount of money, but if they can’t even properly read the pictures they take, how many other people will be getting billed for thruway travel they never took?


23 posted on 12/07/2020 4:18:55 PM PST by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Beowulf9

The sales pitch for tolls in a location like Chicago was that you were going to mostly tax traffic driving through and generate revenue from out of state.

Obviously a dubious argument.


24 posted on 12/07/2020 4:21:06 PM PST by nascarnation
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A great example of gummint that nobody needs, invites graft and increases costs for the little guy, yet the voters allow it, so who am I to say?


25 posted on 12/07/2020 4:30:25 PM PST by Kenny500c ( )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Toll free in ’73.” That was the campaign slogan over five decades ago that promised tolls on Illinois interstates would be a temporary revenue sources.

Not only did they say that when they built them, but Lyin' George Ryan promised to do away with the tolls but doubling the registration fees. He doubled the registration fees, but upgraded the toll booths on I-90, I-88 etc. for I-Pass (Illinois EZ-Pass), ultimately RAISING the rates on the tolls, too, while also enmeshing the booths even MORE into the system.
26 posted on 12/07/2020 4:31:35 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Politicians on Two toll projects in Georgia, one connecting St. Simons Island to the mainland and one in Fulton County that built GA 400 original stretch, tried to extend the tolls once the projects were paid. they lost in court. Today in Georgia we would be stuck with the tolls permanently.


27 posted on 12/07/2020 4:38:17 PM PST by georgiarat (A legal System that isn't applied equally has no moral authority.)
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To: nascarnation

The toll roads in Houston all have three lane wide service roads that aren’t tolled. Lots of people just avoid the toll roads.


28 posted on 12/07/2020 4:44:23 PM PST by Fai Mao (There is no justice until PIAPPS is hanging from a gallows.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They did the same thing in Florida.


29 posted on 12/07/2020 4:51:07 PM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“A toll agency promising to end the tolls is like ...”

I remember when the Golden Gate Bridge loans were paid off. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think tolls were even reduced.


30 posted on 12/07/2020 5:01:38 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Wait until they require GPS devices that report your mileage so that they can charge you for all the driving you do, not just what you do on the tollroads.


31 posted on 12/07/2020 5:12:16 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Illinois is by far the most corrupt state in the union.


32 posted on 12/07/2020 5:17:41 PM PST by KEVLAR ( )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Meanwhile, some cities are telling private toll companies to eff-off (unfortunately, not in the US):

https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/12/7/valenzuela-nlex-toll-booth-business-permit-suspended.html


33 posted on 12/07/2020 5:25:51 PM PST by Starcitizen (Thank you to the Senate for passing S.386, turning the US into the third-world shithole of India. )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Victory Tax was supposed to be Temporary also, but we still have Mandatory witholding


34 posted on 12/07/2020 5:46:40 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Political promises mean nada, zip, nothing anywhere, especially Illinois.


35 posted on 12/07/2020 5:49:53 PM PST by wjcsux (Don’t live your life in fear!)
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To: BillyBoy

Meanwhile, the Prickster family is the most wealthy in Illinois.


36 posted on 12/07/2020 5:52:49 PM PST by wjcsux (Don’t live your life in fear!)
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To: asinclair

As I recall, the original income tax was a progressive tax that started at 1% for incomes that would already represent great wealth today, then went up point by point to 7% at the top.


37 posted on 12/07/2020 6:00:29 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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To: shotgun

I understand that the Astoria, Oregon bridge had its tolls removed some time ago.


38 posted on 12/07/2020 6:01:43 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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To: wjcsux

Yep. If he wants “the rich” to pay their “fair share” so badly, why not lead by example and donate some of his billions to pay for underfunded government programs?


39 posted on 12/07/2020 6:33:19 PM PST by BillyBoy ("States rights" is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes. I lived 1/2 mile from the Illinois Tollway when it was built. I was about 10. The tollroad will outlive me. That said, it is very well maintained.

I lived near a one of the toll stops. One thing I remember after it was built was laying in bed on summer nights and listening in the dark to the cars that had stopped as they began to accelerate and wind through the gears, wondering where they were going in the middle of the night.


40 posted on 12/07/2020 6:53:24 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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