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A Remedy
Freerepublic ^ | 12/1/2020 | MHGinTN

Posted on 12/01/2020 4:18:39 PM PST by MHGinTN

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To: MHGinTN

Or just not send Electors, possibly tossing the race into the House.


61 posted on 12/01/2020 6:59:22 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: MHGinTN

It wouldn’t disenfranchise anyone.

The simple fact is that if this goes to the House to decide, then the Representatives chosen by those voters will vote for President. Viola, no one disenfranchised.

And even if someone is, that’s on the cheating bastards, not anyone else.


62 posted on 12/01/2020 7:03:10 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: Eagles6
The obvious remedy is not in the Constitution.

Wrongo ace. Are you aware of Art II of the USC?

Each state shall appoint, in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.

Based on your post the quality of the average Freeper is going down.

63 posted on 12/01/2020 7:06:54 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: libertylover

I agree with that remedy being both possible, and certainly Constitutional. This would have to be couched in terms of a denial of Equal Protection, with Bush v. Gore being the precedent.


64 posted on 12/01/2020 7:07:44 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: mmichaels1970; Eagles6
The “remedy” therefore, would be left to the state legislative branch, who is held responsible constitutionally for choosing their electors.

Worth repeating

65 posted on 12/01/2020 7:08:00 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Chaguito

perhaps a specialized ink/color for each election reserved for elections only. very specialized to prevent replication. One more check on the system


66 posted on 12/01/2020 7:23:51 PM PST by magna carta (TX all you have to do is send an email to principal with a witness included on the communication.)
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To: Boise3981

I am referring to the notion that ALL ballots counted after the stop order sent all monitors from the counting rooms are suspect and should be discarded. Alito’s instructions were in fact ignored. There were a lot more than 10,000 ballots the PA subpreme court authorized to be counted, illicitly.


67 posted on 12/01/2020 8:29:53 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: TeddyRay

Zeroing in on all ballots counted after the stop counting order came through -an obviously coordinated thus interstate issue- identifies those ballots as part of an interstate crime. To contest state by state their illicit obstruction of observers from seeing specific ballots being counted is a state by state issue not an interstate issue (RIO anyone?).


68 posted on 12/01/2020 8:53:10 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Ancesthntr
This would have to be couched in terms of a denial of Equal Protection, with Bush v. Gore being the precedent.

Sorry, can you explain further?

69 posted on 12/01/2020 8:53:20 PM PST by libertylover (Remember: Deep State hated Jesus too.)
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Here’s the “C” I missed with old tired fingers. RICO!


70 posted on 12/01/2020 8:54:39 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

No, that is the Constitutional remedy.

If the legislature’s rules for the election were violated, the election is not valid and it is up to the legislature to act.

If people don’t like that their election, rife with fraud, was negated, they need to elect officials that will insure the integrity of their elections.

Yes, it’s that simple.


71 posted on 12/01/2020 9:16:28 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: libertylover

“The Supreme Court should rule that, “Due to widespread and documented election fraud, errors and uncertainties, the presidential vote totals from Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona (maybe NM & NV, VA also) cannot be used to choose their Electoral College Electors for the 2020 Presidential election. Therefor, these states are ordered to choose the Electors for their states as prescribed in Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution”. That is all.”

Yup. That should apply to any state where fraud is evident on a scale potentially affecting the outcome. And it sets a precedent. That one paragraph might clean up federal elections for a generation or two.


72 posted on 12/01/2020 9:21:41 PM PST by calenel (Tree of Liberty is thirsty.)
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To: central_va
I posted that on another thread and that is the Constitutional remedy but do our legislatures have the balls to do it?

I sincerely doubt it in PA so a revote makes sense but, I doubt SCOTUS will go there.

You're in the same poition in VA.

BTW, why the f**k are you so insulting and being such an a$$hole?

I've never talked to you before and we seem to be on the same side.

73 posted on 12/01/2020 10:04:21 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: magna carta

Just like Mexico.


74 posted on 12/01/2020 10:47:43 PM PST by Eagles6
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To: libertylover

You cannot have voters in different places treated differently - each must have the protection of equal treatment. What happened in Bush v. Gore was that Gore wanted a manual recount in 4 FL counties, and the FL SC agreed; the USSC said no, that the FL SC had essentially created new election law, which the US Constitution says that only state legislatures can do.

On this case, the EP violations came in different forms: first and foremost IMHO is the failure of these states to protect the objective counting of ballots by failing to stop the removal of Republican observers - but only in certain jurisdictions in these states. Another is the disparate level of scrutiny applied to absentee ballots in different areas within each state. Another is the failure to adhere to state law in some places, but not in others. This can go on and on.

Another type of problem is the outright violation of the power granted ONLY to state legislatures to change election laws in PA by both the Executive Branch and the Judicial Branch.

This is in addition to all of the fraud.

Suits have to be written in such a way as to give the Court a reason to grant the relief sought. The USSC loves EP, and has Bush v Gore as precedent.


75 posted on 12/01/2020 11:24:47 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. )
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To: Boise3981
There are ~10,000 ballots in PA received after 11/3. They are not part of the total being reported. Alito ordered them segregated and not-counted pending litigation.

PA did not actually keep the late arriving ballots segregated. When Alito found out after election day that Boockvar had countermanded her original segregation order, he reissued his order but by then traceability was likely lost. In addition, it looks like several hundred thousand ballots were manufactured after election day and were counted. Those should also be thrown out. So it makes sense to throw out all ballots that were counted while challengers were blocked, kept at an unreasonable distance, or were lied to as to counting having been stopped.

76 posted on 12/02/2020 12:00:46 AM PST by SFConservative
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To: MHGinTN

Furthering this mess is that we have reports of Trump ballots being tossed — confirmed by voters who called to check status and told ballot not rec’d. Those voters have been disenfranchised without remedy, since even an audit can’t find a ballot which was never entered into the system.


77 posted on 12/02/2020 12:41:38 AM PST by LateBoomer
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To: MHGinTN

The elections in states with strong evidence of fraud are declared null and void and there must be new elections.

In elections for federal positions, the President, the Vice President, The House of Representatives and the Senate, no mail in ballots will be accepted.

For federal elections, voters must register and be provided with a picture ID. That ID must be presented at the voting place to confirm the voter is a citizen and legitimate voter. For a federal election, a state issued ID is in adequate. A Drivers license is in adequate. There must be a federally issued photo ID. A passport would be adequate. A federal voter ID card is also adequate.

If a citizen is unable to be present in his actual voting precinct on election day, he may file in advance for an absentee ballot. That ballot must be obtained only after verification that the request is made by a legitimately registered voter. The ballot must be mailed and received on or before election day

The fact one is sick or infirm and immobile is not sufficient reason for making it to the polls. Being on a ventilator falt on your back in an ICU is your fault and you are thus not eligible to vote.


78 posted on 12/02/2020 5:48:32 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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To: smokingfrog

Yes. I know how our ‘Congress Chain of Command’ works. It was a joke between myself and the other poster. :)


79 posted on 12/02/2020 6:26:33 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set. )
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To: bert

I like it! ... so throw out all mail-in ballots received after 8pm on 11/3? The court then reverts to all ballots after the stop counting order from ‘someone’ (you hear this Coomer, you traitor).


80 posted on 12/02/2020 6:52:43 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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