Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Trump’s antibody treatment was tested using cells originally derived from an abortion
MIT Technology Review ^ | October 7, 2020 | Antonio Regalado

Posted on 10/08/2020 10:18:55 AM PDT by PoeToaster

This week, President Donald Trump extolled the cutting-edge coronavirus treatments he received as “miracles coming down from God.” If that’s true, then God employs cell lines derived from human fetal tissue.

The emergency antibody that Trump received last week was developed with the use of a cell line originally derived from abortion tissue, according to Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, the company that developed the experimental drug.

The Trump administration has taken an increasingly firm line against medical research using fetal tissue from abortions. For example, when it moved in 2019 to curtail the ability of the National Institutes of Health to fund such research, supporters hailed a “major pro-life victory” and thanked Trump personally for taking decisive action against what they called the “outrageous and disgusting” practice of “experimentation using baby body parts.”

But when the president faced a deadly encounter with covid-19, his administration raised no objections over the fact that the new drugs also relied on fetal cells, and anti-abortion campaigners were silent too. Many types of medical and vaccine research employ supplies of cells originally acquired from abortion tissue. It would have taken an expert to realize that was the case with Trump’s treatment.

Last Friday, as Trump developed worrisome symptoms of covid-19, the president received an emergency cocktail of anti-coronavirus antibodies made by Regeneron. These molecules are manufactured in cells from a hamster’s ovary, so-called “CHO” cells, according to the company—not in human cells.

But cells originally derived from a fetus were used in another way. According to Regeneron, laboratory tests used to assess the potency of its antibodies employed a standardized supply of cells called HEK 293T, whose origin was kidney tissue from an abortion in the Netherlands in the 1970s.

Since then, the 293T cells have been “immortalized,” meaning they keep dividing in the lab, somewhat like a cancer, and have undergone other genetic changes and additions.

According to Regeneron, it and many other labs employ 293T cells to manufacture virus “pseudoparticles,” which are virus-like structures that contain the “spike” protein of the deadly coronavirus. It needs those to test how well different antibodies will neutralize the virus.

The two antibodies Regeneron eventually put forward as an experimental treatment, which may have saved Trump’s life, would have been selected using exactly such tests. Because the 293T cells were acquired so long ago, and have lived so long in the laboratory, they are no longer thought of as involving abortion politics.

Trump just got a dose of Regeneron’s unapproved antibody drug for covid At 74 and overweight, the president is at higher risk for serious illness.

“It’s how you want to parse it,” says Alexandra Bowie, a Regeneron spokesperson. “But the 293T cell lines available today are not considered fetal tissue, and we did not otherwise use fetal tissue.”

The Trump administration has sought to block or curtail research that requires tissue from recently performed abortions. In August, for example, a new board created by the Department of Health and Human Services, and stacked with figures opposed to abortion, voted to withhold funding from 13 of 14 proposals.

The rejections centered on research seeking fresh supplies of abortion tissue, rather than ongoing research involving older, well-established cell lines in use for many years, like the type Regeneron employed. However, one reason some scientists want to study abortion tissue is so they can create new and valuable cell lines.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: abortion; covid; fakeheadline; fakenews; fetalcells; garbage; nicetry; packoflies; regeneron; sidebarabuse; tds
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-57 next last

1 posted on 10/08/2020 10:18:55 AM PDT by PoeToaster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster
Headline is fake
2 posted on 10/08/2020 10:20:46 AM PDT by palmer (Democracy Dies Six Ways from Sunday)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

Did Trump know this was one of the “ingredients” and who really knew about this? I didn’t.


3 posted on 10/08/2020 10:21:57 AM PDT by hsmomx3
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: palmer

I’m more curious about the decision to use any fetal cells than I am about the headline.


4 posted on 10/08/2020 10:22:17 AM PDT by PoeToaster
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

“...the president received an emergency cocktail of anti-coronavirus antibodies made by Regeneron. These molecules are manufactured in cells from a hamster’s ovary, so-called “CHO” cells, according to the company—not in human cells....”
******************************************************
So...NOT MADE FROM ABORTED FETAL CELLS. Fake News!


5 posted on 10/08/2020 10:23:13 AM PDT by House Atreides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

Alexandra Bowie, a Regeneron spokesperson. “But the 293T cell lines available today are not considered fetal tissue, and we did not otherwise use fetal tissue.”


6 posted on 10/08/2020 10:23:45 AM PDT by conservativepoet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

Mr. Krystal, is that you?


7 posted on 10/08/2020 10:24:09 AM PDT by wiseprince
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

This drug is synthetic so I don’t think this is true!!


8 posted on 10/08/2020 10:24:52 AM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Boy, they sure are reaching.


9 posted on 10/08/2020 10:25:03 AM PDT by proust (Justice delayed is injustice.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

Debunked on several sources including https://factcheck.thedispatch.com/p/was-trumps-antibody-cocktail-created
“What’s more, a Regeneron representative told The Dispatch Fact Check that “Regeneron’s REGN-COV2 program did not involve use of human stem cells, embryonic stem cells or fetal tissue.”


10 posted on 10/08/2020 10:25:26 AM PDT by Columbo (Just one more thing....)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hsmomx3

“Did Trump know this was one of the “ingredients” and who really knew about this? I didn’t.”
********************************
Well, since it’s NOT “one of the ‘ingredients’” I’m glad you didn’t “know” it. Fake news, FRiend.


11 posted on 10/08/2020 10:25:38 AM PDT by House Atreides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

You would be correct. Obvious ploy to separate Trump from the base.


12 posted on 10/08/2020 10:25:52 AM PDT by wiseprince
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

REGENERON USES EMBRYOS THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED SOLELY THROUGH IN VITRO FERTILIZATION.

“Embryonic stem cells are sought after in scientific research because they can develop into all cell types of the body. While embryonic cells from abortions are commonly used, Regeneron clarified that it uses embryos that have been “created solely through in vitro fertilization”.

https://theprint.in/world/antibody-cocktail-given-to-trump-is-controversial-and-not-only-because-its-still-under-trial/518396/


13 posted on 10/08/2020 10:27:25 AM PDT by BellaMac
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hsmomx3

How are we to know now what is and is not made from aborted babies? It’s unconscionable. I am staying away from ALL pharma products if I can.


14 posted on 10/08/2020 10:28:33 AM PDT by .30Carbine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster
We don’t know that Regeneron saved the President. Perhaps Hydroxychloroquine or Quercitin did? Or some of the other cocktails? It may be safe to say the President didn’t know Regeneron was made with aborted fetal cells. He most likely took the advice of trusted doctors.

Ignorance is an excuse. However once you know, then it’s on you.

Vaccines derived using aborted fetal cells are the devil’s bargain. Does a baby have to die for you to live?
15 posted on 10/08/2020 10:28:41 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster

These kind of posts will make me deaf to the news until election day. Obvious attempt to divide and conquer. Trump will win.

Nancy’s attempt to “talk” about the 25th amendment in the House tomorrow is a clear “tell” that they’ve lost the election.


16 posted on 10/08/2020 10:30:53 AM PDT by conservativepoet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: hsmomx3

“Ingredients”

Even if one of the aborted cell lines was used in the manufacture (it isn’t), the cells do not end up in the product itself. But still unacceptable to any pro-lifer.


17 posted on 10/08/2020 10:31:52 AM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: House Atreides

I’d read several years ago that most of the fetal cells used in research is from umbilical cords, which are more available n much less expensive. I’ll Google when I get home


18 posted on 10/08/2020 10:34:24 AM PDT by fastrock
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: hsmomx3

America knows it now.


19 posted on 10/08/2020 10:34:30 AM PDT by 353FMG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: PoeToaster
Fact check: FALSE

Was Trump’s Antibody Cocktail Created Through Research Using Embryonic Stem Cells?

20 posted on 10/08/2020 10:36:19 AM PDT by sourcery (#MakeThouhtFreeAgain)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-57 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson