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To: Bob Ireland

The port that one uses for “permanent” access appears about the size of a quarter and is above the breast in a lot of cases. They are under the skin, and look somewhat like a pacemaker. There are no permanent “tubes” sticking out.

The pig tails used on some ports are not that far down into anyone’s sleeves.

The IV access that a lot of people have seen in the hospital are rarely used outside of the hospital because they are pretty fragile for use in every day life.

For weeks there have been voices on FR telling people that while Joe has some cognitive decline it does not mean he cannot hold his act together for two hours.

For weeks there have been people on FR warning of a “rope a dope” possibility from the Biden side.

I think those suggestions came true to some degree.

We should accept that we are really going to have to show Joe for what he is and not rely on his self destruction. That should not be too difficult—but people need to start thinking that he is a candidate and he is not going to show up, crapping himself on the stage.


1,090 posted on 10/01/2020 9:18:38 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt; greeneyes
***The port that one uses for “permanent” access appears about the size of a quarter and is above the breast in a lot of cases. They are under the skin, and look somewhat like a pacemaker. There are no permanent “tubes” sticking out***

Thank you for your more detailed explanation. I needed to get to bed and just could not take the time to post the details. Usually the 'ports' for dialysis, for example, are mounted in the upper arm and I presume from your comments sometimes in the upper chest.

An IV device - or 'port' - is almost ridiculous at the location pictured for many reasons, predominantly that the veins there are too small for the procedures being administered. Also, for either purpose, the device is aimed the wrong way: it is apparently facing the hand while IV catheters would be mounted facing the heart: in a vein, not in an artery. {One problem with wrist punctures is hitting an artery; the first 'flash' would be a pulsating spurt.}

Also, as you say, the {silicone} 'port' is sealed under the epidermis to avoid infection and is accessed by temporary puncture for treatment.

***The IV access that a lot of people have seen in the hospital are rarely used outside of the hospital because they are pretty fragile for use in every day life.***

I have had one mounted for temporary 'home care' followup. You are right, it did not work out all that well. As I implied last night, the 'capillary' tube used for connecting 'drips' or hypodermic needles to the catheter or drawing blood from the catheter must be securely taped down and the catheter is captured in an adhesive seal to keep it from popping out and/or bleeding - or infecting.

For now I guess we will have to declare the device showing on Biden's wrist as 'unknown'.

1,115 posted on 10/01/2020 10:02:56 AM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Vermont Lt

The best Ockhams razor interpretation of all the early lids he’s been calling lately was that he has been reversing his schedule to get up about 5:00 in order to avoid the ‘sundowning’ effect for the debates. So you’re probably right but... I still bet he cheated. My guess, Trump doesn’t care. Let him have the questions, let him have a voice in his ear, it doesn’t matter, he’s a loser and he’s going to do what losers do. Lose. Because Donald J. Trump is a winner and that is because he likes to do very well, he likes to win.


1,180 posted on 10/01/2020 12:03:54 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB)
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