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Physicists Cast Doubt on Neutrino Theory - Exotic Subatomic Particle May Not Exist at All
SciTech Daily ^ | August 13, 2020 | University of Cincinnati

Posted on 08/22/2020 1:57:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: norwaypinesavage

ROFL!!!!!

Yeah man I mean it’s just not true.

They have done INCREDIBLE experiments with that collide that DEFINITELY point to more than meets the eye and DO put physics on its head.


41 posted on 08/22/2020 6:05:59 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: TexasGator

“Posting that does not support your post.”
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Your post 6 led me to believe that I could expect some explanatory insight from you later in the thread. So, I’ve been trying to follow your “contributions” to this thread looking for that insight on the subject of this thread... so far to no avail.

Your thread posts are:

Post 6 : Not exactly ...

Post 11: GEEZ!

Post 16: Wrong

Post 17: So you say.

Post 19: How so?

Post 27: Please explain.

Post 30: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterile_neutrino

Post 33: How is that?

Post 35: Posting that does not support your post.

I’m guessing that I’m wasting my time looking for that insight to appear.


42 posted on 08/22/2020 6:11:55 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Larry Lucido

I just invented transparent aluminum - Scottish guy from the future gave me the formula though


43 posted on 08/22/2020 6:12:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SunkenCiv
I didn't even try my Oldtrino joke.

Then there's the Ford Torino.

44 posted on 08/22/2020 6:18:44 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: House Atreides
I’m guessing that I’m wasting my time looking for that insight to appear.

Let me offer a possible explanation: Dunning–Kruger Effect.

45 posted on 08/22/2020 6:21:50 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrats' John Dean])
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To: Steely Tom

“Actually, it does.”

Actually it does not.


46 posted on 08/22/2020 6:22:04 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: House Atreides

Yep. His copy/paste does not support his post.


47 posted on 08/22/2020 6:25:53 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Steely Tom

One has definitely lost when they have only personal insults to offer!

You can’t defend your post.


48 posted on 08/22/2020 6:27:50 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: dp0622; Steely Tom

“yeah man I can’t believe what I’m reading. I think a lot of people are commenting that don’t do a lot of reading on it or don’t know much about the subject”

Some don’t even read or understand the article!


49 posted on 08/22/2020 6:31:29 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Agreed.

And they are wrong. INCREDIBLE tests have been done especially with the super collider that have had some breathtaking results


50 posted on 08/22/2020 6:36:09 PM PDT by dp0622 (I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE COVID GODFATHER I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!)
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To: Steely Tom
That was even cooler than the Taurus. ;^)

51 posted on 08/22/2020 6:40:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: faithhopecharity

>>Sterile species tend to die out. Maybe it’s too late to find sterile nutrinos<<

Maybe they are are not sterile. Maybe they are gay or just really bad at dating.


52 posted on 08/22/2020 6:45:07 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Do not mistake activity for achievement." - John Wooden)
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To: freedumb2003

Same result


53 posted on 08/22/2020 6:51:26 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: dp0622

“And they are wrong.”

Usually science post only generate a few lame jokes.


54 posted on 08/22/2020 7:02:42 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: SunkenCiv

The Letts/Craven effect of generating muons from a material target with a 30 mW, 680 nm laser doesn’t agree with the Standard Model. A member of the Los Alamos National Laboratory research scientists repeated the procedure, obtaining similar findings. The parameters of creating the active material were not understood sufficiently well to reproduce once the batch was exhausted.

Holmlid and Olofson experiments a decade ago have found a route to recreate the muon production, a cascade of particle decay leading to muons created cheaply, in the sense of energy input to produce the muon. Norrønt Fusion Energy AS is furthering exploration into use of these particles to stimulate Deuterium fusion for heat production.

The direct energy extractable from initial meson generation by laser stimulation is relatively small, thus fusion serves to amplify that output.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15361055.2018.1546090


55 posted on 08/22/2020 7:12:13 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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To: Ozark Tom
That's an excellent idea, the brute force approaches used to try to harness fusion seem remarkably unlikely to work.

56 posted on 08/22/2020 7:34:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: TexasGator

57 posted on 08/22/2020 8:36:49 PM PDT by xp38
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To: molewhacka

You don’t need to emphasize it, you just need to make a scientific case based on provable and verifiable facts.

The fact that you can’t and need to resort to non-argument arguments “as the father of a particle physicist” “one does not earn a PhD in Physics”, bringing in unrelated successes to try to bolster the weak argument etc. should demonstrate to you just how weak the assertion is.

If the existence of those particles were verifiable in fact, all you’d need to do is show that. But instead you HAVE to go off in a totally different, fallacy-driven direction, because that argument DOES NOT EXIST.

Now bring this physicist son of yours into the conversation so I can have this discussion with him, instead of you trying to speak on his behalf. (Spoiler alert: he will do no better - I have done all the research and have not come to this conclusion lightly at all.)


58 posted on 08/23/2020 1:57:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: thoughtomator

“I have done all the research and have not come to this conclusion lightly at all.)”

Really? Make your case!


59 posted on 08/23/2020 10:22:24 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Sure. Particle-ists believe there’s something called an “electron”.

They also believe that electrons “flow” along an electric current.

Now take a simple “electron gun” experiment in a pressure chamber, and vary the pressure inside.

If electrons are genuinely moving from cathode to anode, then increased pressure should result in decreased current, as the greater density should intercept more moving electrons. Maximum current should occur in a vacuum, with no atoms to intercept the allegedly moving electrons.

Go look it up, that’s exactly how electron guns are supposed to work - don’t take my word for it.

Except there’s a problem when you try to verify this with experiment. When you lower the pressure, the electric current DECREASES. In vacuum the current goes to zero.

The opposite should happen if particle theory is true.

Furthermore, when you try to nail them down on what exactly an electron is, they instantly go to the impossible “wave-particle duality” so they can pick and choose which set of rules they want to use to explain events, in defiance of those rules contradicting each other. And an electron instead of being a distinct particle becomes a “cloud” of probable positions.

They can’t prove any of that and the simplest experiment with an electron gun blows the hell out of the theory.


60 posted on 08/23/2020 1:34:10 PM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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