Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

To: All governors of the States...
djf

Posted on 07/13/2020 6:09:18 PM PDT by djf

Ok. There is a "pandemic" of sorts going on. And you, or your Health Departments have taken action over this, in terms of making "orders" or "laws" or whatever you wish to call them.

In many cases they seem to make sense, at least if we accept that this coronavirus was as lethal as say smallpox was to the west during the colonizations of America.

And this was accented by alot of news media who acted like lapdogs and followed your orders to the teeth and focused on the violators, etc.

So my question is: Are these "orders" laws or not? Simple question, right? You can answer that one.

And the answer is....

No. They are NOT laws. They are at best, suggestions.

The reason is a simple understanding of what a government is, the separation of powers doctrine, and what is or is not PROMISED to the people by THEIR CONSTITUTION!

In Article 4, Section 4, it states... "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government..."

So what is this guarantee and how does it affect your "orders"?

It is a guarantee that each state shall have three distinct bodies. It will have a governor, who is responsible to make sure laws are executed properly. It shall have a judicial system that can alleviate disputes. But mostly it means that each state shall have a legislature, who pass laws at the will of the people.

That last statement is irrefutable. All states MUST have an active legislature made up of the people of the state.

They can, in times of emergency, pass this power to the governor, but they MUST MEET and formalize the adoption of his recommendations into law at some time or the "orders" are simply his best wishes.

Period.

So for all you governors who have been watching Fauci and Birx etc, etc, etc and trying to play the game you are simply WRONG!


TOPICS: Reference
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

1 posted on 07/13/2020 6:09:18 PM PDT by djf
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: djf

The power derives from us

And we also have the firepower

And our patience for pandemic dictators is wearing extremely thin


2 posted on 07/13/2020 6:12:06 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: djf

You know, I think over my lifetime I’ve heard a lot of rhetoric from conservatives about freedom, tyranny, founding principles, the Constitution, the Second Amendment, how we have to be ready to fight for our rights, and so forth.

And now that we have a totalitarian government, I hear more of the same rhetoric!

I would have expected the actual fight, not a continuation of the rhetoric about the fighting.


3 posted on 07/13/2020 6:12:20 PM PDT by cmj328 (We live here.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cmj328

There are attorneys standing at ready to defend those cited or etc for not wearing a mask etc. several lawsuits sending their way through california courts over this upending of the bill of rights.

Hopefully we’ll win.

See Mark Meuser, Dhillon Law, ACLJ.


4 posted on 07/13/2020 6:14:15 PM PDT by Persevero (I am afraid propriety has been set at naught. - Jane Austen)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: cmj328
I would have expected the actual fight, not a continuation of the rhetoric about the fighting.

Indeed. Our Forefathers would have been shooting by now.

5 posted on 07/13/2020 6:19:03 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If liberals had a conscience, they would wouldn't be liberals.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: djf

In some of the states laws have been passed that authorize “lockdowns” and such health measures by the Governor.
There are also local public health laws passed.
This isn’t our first rodeo with disease.


6 posted on 07/13/2020 6:19:31 PM PDT by mrsmith (US Media: "Every cop is a criminal; ALL the sinners saints!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: cmj328

More Rhetoric


7 posted on 07/13/2020 6:22:14 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: djf

Yes they are laws. The laws and constitutions give power to the governors to issue executive orders in an emergency, which is what they are doing.


8 posted on 07/13/2020 6:26:12 PM PDT by kaehurowing
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

Who are the “pandemic dictators”?


9 posted on 07/13/2020 6:26:26 PM PDT by ALASKA (Watching an attempted coup by a thousand cuts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: djf

bttt


10 posted on 07/13/2020 6:28:37 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you haimeve. Don't wait. Do it today.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ALASKA

Gretchen Whitmer, B-Michigan


11 posted on 07/13/2020 6:28:51 PM PDT by madison10
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: djf

In Illinois all of the “orders” issued by Governor Creosote have been declared illegal, unconstitutional, and void. The Court order applies State wide.

Not one single news network has covered that.

Not one.

L


12 posted on 07/13/2020 6:32:03 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: djf
You are simply... WRONG!

And if I were you, governors, I wouldn't test the people and make them prove to you how wrong you are. You would regret that course of action. We know this is tyranny for your ulterior motives of destroying Trump and rigging our elections. You need to cease and desist before you cross a line that you can't retreat from.

13 posted on 07/13/2020 6:35:08 PM PDT by Bullish (CNN is what happens when 8th graders run a cable network.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: djf

Many states have grassroots organizations dedicated to bringing the treasonous government actions to light.

Many are bringing lawsuits and need your support.

As Constitutionalists, it’s our sacred duty to support these suits. These rogue governors need to pay a serious price

Never Again must be our rallying cry.


14 posted on 07/13/2020 6:39:03 PM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: djf

Join these groups.

Attend their rally’s

Be loud

I’m not just talking. I’ve not only attended rally’s, I even organized one and spoke on stage.


15 posted on 07/13/2020 6:41:10 PM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kaehurowing

An emergency is a tornado or hurricane, lasting a few days not five months. In my state, the emergency power directly opposes the state constitution.


16 posted on 07/13/2020 6:42:50 PM PDT by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: madison10

Do you think she is working in unison with herself to do this? Who got this started and who is involved?


17 posted on 07/13/2020 6:43:20 PM PDT by ALASKA (Watching an attempted coup by a thousand cuts)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: ALASKA

Everyone in power taking advantage and exploiting this to put edicts and lockdowns and decide what can be open and what cant and if our fricking lives are going to resemble prisons, both elected and unelected/appointed

In case you havent been following anything since march


18 posted on 07/13/2020 6:43:24 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: djf

You need to read some case law.

Your local health official is the most powerful person in your world. The public health benefits outweigh all of the right you speak of.

Instead of doing back of the envelope law, you might want to read some.


19 posted on 07/13/2020 6:43:48 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: djf

Conspiracy to abuse their power


20 posted on 07/13/2020 6:44:05 PM PDT by vigilante2 (Make liberals cry again)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-32 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson