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Time to cancel Darwin
Christian Post ^ | 07/06/2020 | Michael Brown

Posted on 07/06/2020 7:32:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 07/06/2020 7:32:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“Starting there, it will be easier to topple his intellectual house of cards.”

If evolution is a house of cards then it should be easy to discredit, Darwin’s personal opinions play no part in the scientific theory of evolution.


2 posted on 07/06/2020 7:36:35 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s pretty easy for (some) people to look at the “science” of Global Warming and realize it’s much more politics than it is science.

But the same is true for Darwinism. People treat evolution like something proven and beyond question. It isn’t. The core concept of species changing into different species is totally unproven and very much open to question. It’s time to realize that Darwinism is much more politics than it is science.


3 posted on 07/06/2020 7:38:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
Please tell me what is wrong or inaccurate about this statement, in 1860;

The ‘western nations of Europe … now so immeasurably surpass their former savage progenitors and stand at the summit of civilization.’”

Since then, thanks to among other things, two massively self genocidal wars among the European states, the genetic and intellectual and moral quality of the west has declined a great deal.It is masked by the great advances in material culture, but a day of reckoning is fast approaching.

4 posted on 07/06/2020 7:40:31 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: FewsOrange

Darwinism is crumbling b/c people realize that complex structures cannot organize themselves, not b/c Darwin happened to be a rabid racist.


5 posted on 07/06/2020 7:43:00 AM PDT by alstewartfan (One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace. Al S.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I guess if you believe the only true wisdom is received wisdom you might think canceling a person also cancels his ideas.
6 posted on 07/06/2020 7:43:44 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: SeekAndFind
"As much as I despise the cancel culture"...

Either it's wrong or it isn't. Darwin certainly had "ideas" that were often misused, but he never advocated eugenics or racism. To wipe his name and life's work from history because of what others did is like toppling a statue of Christopher Columbus because of what the Spanish conquistadors did.
7 posted on 07/06/2020 7:45:48 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: FewsOrange

The time scale - way insufficient for evolution to occur by natural selection - discredits Darwin thoroughly. Hybridization is the answer to how “evolution” appears to have happened thousands of times faster than it should have.

The scientific question is resolved. The political question is a political one and if the moral panic of the day helps to close it, why not use it?


8 posted on 07/06/2020 7:47:12 AM PDT by thoughtomator (here comes the switch to Hillary)
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To: SeekAndFind
Evolution is a modern fable concocted by men with small minds and massive egos.
In other words, Pride.
Randomness in the physical realm doesn't mean what evolutionists pretend. In the real, physical world, we attribute 'randomness' to systems too complex to be readily (re-)computed.
9 posted on 07/06/2020 7:51:28 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Man is the product of a series of biological flukes, not a creation made in the image of God, according to Chuck. How could anyone have made inferences that led to millions of deaths?


10 posted on 07/06/2020 7:53:27 AM PDT by alstewartfan (One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace. Al S.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This piece is a pack of lies, one layer piled on another like geological strata.

The real fact is that Darwin was a scientist who followed wherever the available data took him.
That data in Darwin’s time was enough to deduce evolution by natural selection, but not enough for him to see how very little actually separates Europeans from other “races” of humans.


11 posted on 07/06/2020 7:55:06 AM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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RE: The real fact is that Darwin was a scientist who followed wherever the available data took him.

Which ones of the lines that quoted Darwin in this article are lies?


12 posted on 07/06/2020 7:57:59 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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RE: Darwin certainly had “ideas” that were often misused, but he never advocated eugenics or racism

Yes, but he did believe that some races are INHERENTLY superior to others. What do you call such beliefs?


13 posted on 07/06/2020 7:59:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Frankly, if one doesn’t believe in the Judaeo-Christian God and the story of creation (Adam and Eve), then you pretty much must logically agree with Darwin.

The inherent nobility of every human being is based on our common parents and our immortal soul, instilled by God at conception.

Darwin lacked belief and faith in God.


14 posted on 07/06/2020 7:59:53 AM PDT by budj (Combat vet, 2nd of three generations.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yes, but he did believe that some races are INHERENTLY superior to others. What do you call such beliefs?

In Darwin's time? Conventional wisdom.

15 posted on 07/06/2020 8:11:27 AM PDT by semimojo
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RE: In Darwin’s time? Conventional wisdom.

So, is it racist or not?


16 posted on 07/06/2020 8:16:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: alstewartfan

Self organization creating complex structures is well known in chemistry!

“Far from thermodynamic equilibrium, many precipitation reactions create complex product structures with fascinating features caused by their unusual origins. ….’

https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/8/e1601144.full


17 posted on 07/06/2020 8:31:47 AM PDT by Reily
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To: SeekAndFind
So, is it racist or not?

With what we know now? Of course it is.

Does this in any way change the validity of Darwin's ideas about natural selection?

18 posted on 07/06/2020 8:35:45 AM PDT by semimojo
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In his book, On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life, Darwin put forth the idea that all life came from a single common ancestor and changed without design, goal, or purpose - our brain and morality developed as such - and humans are merely another animal - as he put forth in Descent of Man::
…Man, like every other animal, has no doubt advanced to his present high condition through a struggle for existence consequent on his rapid multiplication; and if he is to advance still higher, it is to be feared that he must remain subject to a severe struggle. Otherwise he would sink into indolence, and the more gifted men would not be more successful in the battle of life than the less gifted. Hence our natural rate of increase, though leading to many and obvious evils, must not be greatly diminished by any means. There should be open competition for all men; and the most able should not be prevented by laws or customs from succeeding best and rearing the largest number of offspring."

"We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination; we build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.”
-Charles Darwin, Descent of Man

In the Darwinian view of humans as animals, what would cause us to stop practicing animal husbandry within our own species? Reduce the meaning of "human" to "just another animal", and eugenics is fair game. Scientific data is well supported in animal husbandry. Eugenics is only abhorrent to those who recognize that there is something transcendently special about humans.

In the early decades of the 20th century, Human Zoos were created where thousands of indigenous peoples were put on public display and touted as “missing links” between man and apes. Their public display was arranged with the enthusiastic support of the most elite members of the scientific community, and it was promoted uncritically by America’s leading newspapers.

With Darwinism, there is always an inferior race and a superior race – there must be an intermediate bridging the gap – or as Darwin states:

“At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate, and replace, the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes, as Professor Schaaffhausen has remarked will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as a baboon, instead of as now between the negro or Australian and the gorilla.”
- Charles Darwin, Descent of Man
If Darwin allowed Dawkins to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist then he also allowed scientists to be an intellectually fulfilled racist.

Racism and eugenics were the hallmarks of the theory of human evolution in the early 20th century, representing a clear consensus of evolutionary biologists as well as other scientists and leaders in higher education and government (endorsed by the Supreme Court in 1926). Eugenics is an ugly part of American history that was taught to our children (See: Hunter’s Civic Biology ) – a movement that caused the compulsory sterilization laws in 30 U.S. states that resulted in more than 60,000 sterilizations of disabled.

At the core of the current theory of evolution is materialism/naturalism and this is a worldview with consequences. For example, as Stephen Meyer points out -the constitution assumes:

In contrast, under the materialistic picture of reality pervasive in our culture, you get this:

These are not Conservative principles.

19 posted on 07/06/2020 8:43:37 AM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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RE: Does this in any way change the validity of Darwin’s ideas about natural selection?

Well, if Darwin is correct ( that is, we all came from a chance process via random mutation and natural selection) , then we have to admit that some races are INHERENTLY more advanced in the natural selection process than others.

And if Darwin is correct, there really is nothing morally wrong with being a Nazi or being a supporter of the KKK.

In fact, MORALITY is meaningless. It’s just part of the process of evolution.


20 posted on 07/06/2020 8:46:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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