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Was Beethoven Black? Twitter Debates Race of German Composer
Newsweek ^ | June 18, 2020 | Seren Morris

Posted on 07/03/2020 7:17:51 AM PDT by Stravinsky

Twitter users are debating whether or not Beethoven was black after a blog post about the subject resurfaced online.

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In the post on The Concordian, the author said: "I am no Beethoven expert, but bringing up this topic is important. While getting to the bottom of the truth about Beethoven's race will change nothing about the supreme quality of his music, it will open up dialogue about the massive effects of European colonialism that promote racism still today.

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However, there is no evidence of Beethoven's race aside from portraits that suggest that he was white, and the blog post merely offers up speculation. The conspiracy theory that Beethoven was black "is not based on genealogical studies of Beethoven's past," according to the Beethoven Center at San Jose State University, but rather "is based on the assumption that one of Beethoven's ancestors had a child out of wedlock."

The Beethoven Center adds: "It is important to note that no one called Beethoven black or a moor during his lifetime, and the Viennese were keenly aware both of Moors and of mulattos, such as George Bridgetower, the famous violinist who collaborated with Beethoven."

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Despite this, many Twitter users began sharing The Concordian story on Thursday.

One Twitter user said: "White historians continue to prove how gross they are, they literally tried to paint one of the best-known musicians as a caucasian and made us believe for years that he was white when Beethoven was black... White people tryna whitewash history again."

A Twitter user shared a TikTok imagining what listening to new music in the 1800s would have been like and said: "This is funnier now that we know that Beethoven is black."

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: beethoven; black; bridgetower; classicalmusic; georgebridgetower; idiots; music; revisionisthistory; theconcordian; twitter
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1 posted on 07/03/2020 7:17:51 AM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: Stravinsky

No.


2 posted on 07/03/2020 7:19:00 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Father in Heaven, I trust in Your love.)
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To: Stravinsky

3 posted on 07/03/2020 7:19:05 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Stravinsky

Yeah, gotta go find the CD with Beethoven’s first rap symphony.


4 posted on 07/03/2020 7:20:42 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Stravinsky

5 posted on 07/03/2020 7:20:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Stravinsky

Beethoven’s 40 ounce?


6 posted on 07/03/2020 7:20:57 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Stravinsky

“Was Beethoven Black? Twitter Debates Race of German Composer”

Much ado about nothing. New motto of America’s woke generation?


7 posted on 07/03/2020 7:21:36 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (uff)
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To: Stravinsky

Was Beethoven a good composer? I suppose the answer depends on his skin color ...

Or maybe it doesn’t matter.


8 posted on 07/03/2020 7:21:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ealgeone

A Fifth of Beethoven


9 posted on 07/03/2020 7:21:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Stravinsky

All the contemporary descriptions say he was red faced. From stress, not natural skin color.


10 posted on 07/03/2020 7:22:40 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If you believe masks work, you also believe Santa Claus ate the Easter Bunny for dinner.)
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To: Stravinsky

Gary Oldman pick up the, er, um white courtesy phone.


11 posted on 07/03/2020 7:24:52 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Stravinsky

Beethoven had a mean beat, but you can’t dance to it, so ....


12 posted on 07/03/2020 7:26:21 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (BIDEN for MEMORY CARE 2019!)
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To: Stravinsky

When did what random libtard worthless Twatter Trolls and Tik Tok teenY boppers become “news.”

The Soros media started the trend of embedding random Twatter user posts in news stories and commenting on this trash like it is news.

This has as much newsworthiness as a debate at the local flat earth convention.

Twatter is not news. Twatter is disconnected with reality. The media is driving this nonsense and giving Twatter trolls legitimacy that they haven’t earned and do not deserve.


13 posted on 07/03/2020 7:26:50 AM PDT by TexasGurl24
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To: Joe 6-pack

Well we know now thanks to Broadway that Alexander Hamilton was black, so why not Beethoven?


14 posted on 07/03/2020 7:27:36 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: ealgeone

The 9mm Symphony.


15 posted on 07/03/2020 7:29:11 AM PDT by gundog ( Hail to the Chief, bitches!)
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To: Stravinsky

Maybe people should mention the violinist who premiered Beethoven’s Violin Sonata No. 9 was a mixed race black by the name of George Bridgetower.


16 posted on 07/03/2020 7:30:23 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Stravinsky

It appears the entire argument for Beethoven being “black” boils down to a couple historical comments about his “Moorish or Spanish” complexion. That’s isn’t black, that’s the olive complexion that is common throughout southern Europe (Spain, Italy, Greece). If you follow that line of logic, then it means Europe is already about 40% black. Their second argument is Beethoven music had African themes (never heard that myself, but still lets go with it). He was one of the most learned musical scholars of his age! Did he have to be black to know about “African musical themes”? Could he not have studied it at some point in his life (which is far more likely than him being black).


17 posted on 07/03/2020 7:30:27 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Stravinsky

The same people are convinced Cleopatra was black and Lincoln was a homo.


18 posted on 07/03/2020 7:30:57 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: TexasGurl24
It is pretty tiring to see how many posts here use 'twitter' as a legitimate source.

Now watch. I'm gonna get "Well, what about President Trump's tweets?"

19 posted on 07/03/2020 7:31:20 AM PDT by real saxophonist (If you believe masks work, you also believe Santa Claus ate the Easter Bunny for dinner.)
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To: Stravinsky

If Beethoven is black then maybe Elizabeth Warren is an Indian after all.


20 posted on 07/03/2020 7:31:24 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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