[C19fan]

The Pantsir is the latest in the family tree of tactical Soviet/Russian AA systems going back to the ZSU-23-4 Shilka. The Pantsir is armed with 2 30 MM AA Cannons and AA missiles

[Red Badger]

Apparently they make great targets.................

[ClearCase_guy]

I guess I’m out of touch — Is Turkey having a war with Libya?

[HighSierra5]

Another B.O. success story.

[rbg81]

In the latter category, the operational capabilities of conscript armies in failed states such as Libya and Syria must not be compared to those of modern professional militaries.

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This point cannot be emphasized enough. These systems are very sophisticated, so its crucial that it be operated by trained personnel. Not just people who read the training manuals, but they have to practice with it in simulated engagements. I am sure the Russian personnel do this, but probably not the host nations No matter how capable the system, it is likely useless if its being operated by neophytes.

[moovova]

Pantsir S1...

Sounds about as worthless as our former Pantsuit NO-1 defense system used in Benghazi, Libya...

[Godzilla]

Actually troubles for the Pantsir were revealed during Turkey’s incursion into Syria. Turkish drones had a field day picking off Pantsir units. The Turks just transferred their knowledge/experience to Libya.

[allendale]

Saudi Arabia is tired of subsidizing and feeding Egypt. The Saudis now pay for 25% of France’s grain harvest to send to Egypt as well as subsidizing the cost of fuel and salaries for the military. Libya is the big prize. It has huge oil reserves and a small population. Egypt does not have much oil and a huge population. Soon the old “United Arab Republic”, at least the combination of Libya and Egypt, will be reconstituted.

[AndyJackson]

Libya has a strong man? I thought we got rid of Qaddafi. Arab Spring and all that Hillary rot.

[patriotfury]

To be fair, Russian is a hard language to learn, especially if you are already illiterate and drunk, and 30mm shells were extra...

[mad_as_he$$]

I had to read the OP three times to discern what is going on. Lot’s of inside baseball and acronym’s.

[Terry L Smith]

Again, they copied the one true system ... PHALANX, made by General Dynamics Pomona Division, Pomona, California.