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Group of businesses file suit against Whitmer, challenge executive authority
Crain's Detroit ^ | 4/28/20 | Dustin Walsh

Posted on 04/28/2020 4:18:42 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Texas Eagle

just as I was about to post this, Tucker brought it up on his show:

25 Apr: The Atlantic: Internet Speech Will Never Go Back to Normal
In the debate over freedom versus control of the global network, China was largely correct, and the U.S. was wrong.
by Jack Goldsmith, Harvard Law School professor & Andrew Keane Woods, Professor of law at the University of Arizona College of Law
Today, the platforms are proudly collaborating with one another, and following government guidance, to censor harmful information related to the coronavirus. And they are using their prodigious data-collection capacities, in coordination with federal and state governments, to improve contact tracing, quarantine enforcement, and other health measures. As Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg recently boasted, “The world has faced pandemics before, but this time we have a new superpower: the ability to gather and share data for good.”...

As surprising as it may sound, digital surveillance and speech control in the United States already show many similarities to what one finds in authoritarian states such as China...
In the great debate of the past two decades about freedom versus control of the network, China was largely right and the United States was largely wrong. Significant monitoring and speech control are inevitable components of a mature and flourishing internet, and governments must play a large role in these practices to ensure that the internet is compatible with a society’s norms and values...
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/what-covid-revealed-about-internet/610549/


21 posted on 04/28/2020 5:11:36 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: metmom

Frau Whitmer is a nut job. I live in one of five counties in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula whereby there are only 10,000 people that reside in each of the 5 counties. There are no instances of coronavirus in the entire 5 counties. The five counties are Alger, Baraga, Calumet, Iron and Kewanaw


22 posted on 04/28/2020 5:20:59 PM PDT by hondact200 (Lincoln Freed the Slaves. Obama Enslaves the Free. Trump 2020 - Keep America Great)
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To: EC Washington

Like Wisconsin and other states, the people of Michigan agree on only one thing: the two political sides hate and despise each other.


23 posted on 04/28/2020 5:22:31 PM PDT by frank ballenger (End vote fraud,harvesting,non-citizen voting & leftist media news censorship or we are finished.)
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To: MAGAthon

The Atlantic writers - both connected to Lawfare!

Wikipedia: Jack Goldsmith
In addition to being a professor at Harvard, Goldsmith is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University.

***He is a co-founder of the Lawfare Blog along with Brookings fellow Benjamin Wittes and Texas Law professor Robert M. Chesney
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Goldsmith

loads of stuff by Woods on their website:

18 Oct 2019: Lawfare Blog: China and the Hypocrisy of American Speech Imperialism
By Andrew Keane Woods
(Andrew Keane Woods is a Professor of Law at the University of Arizona College of Law. Before that, he was a postdoctoral cybersecurity fellow at Stanford University. He holds a J.D. from Harvard Law School and a Ph.D. in Politics from the University of Cambridge, where he was a Gates Scholar)
There is no easy answer to the very difficult question of if or how American firms should do business in China. But, unfortunately, resolving this question is made harder because the debate is marred by a general lack of analytical clarity and is instead being driven by uninformed moral outrage, free speech absolutism, and American exceptionalism...

The first problem is the sheer hypocrisy of those most loudly critical of American firms self-censoring in order to appease the Chinese government...
Another distasteful and unconstructive thread running through the current debate is America’s moral superiority because of its robust speech rights. At the core of the argument that U.S. firms should not do business in China—or if they do, they should somehow not comply with Chinese rules—is an argument about China’s speech constraints and, therefore, its moral inferiority. But, as I’ve said before, evaluating China along welfare or human rights grounds is not so simple. Speech rights are much less robust than in the West, to be sure, but China has shown extraordinary concern—and done more than any other country—for its poor...
https://www.lawfareblog.com/china-and-hypocrisy-american-speech-imperialism


24 posted on 04/28/2020 5:33:15 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

If you’re drunk, why care about your clothes?

Maybe that’s the logic.


25 posted on 04/28/2020 5:48:23 PM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: Liz

Good to see you back and as bad as usual.


26 posted on 04/28/2020 5:49:07 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Are the ChiComs/PRC, ESPN of America's, fake news media/CNN, Democrats, the real Deep Staters?)
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To: Liz

An outfit Leni Reifenstal would approve of.


27 posted on 04/28/2020 5:49:47 PM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: hondact200
"The five counties are Alger, Baraga, Calumet, Iron and Kewanaw"

Calumet county?
28 posted on 04/28/2020 6:33:45 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I was able to get my lawn mower serviced, no prob.


29 posted on 04/28/2020 7:44:43 PM PDT by brianr10
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To: wally_bert
Yeah but we are reupholstering our couch. When you are drunk you need some place to lay down. :)
30 posted on 04/29/2020 10:06:33 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Leave it to me to be holdin' the matches when the fire truck shows up & there's nobody else to blame)
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To: lapsus calami

Does it ever......and she’s got brown-shirted Ftitzl by her side to carry out her orders.


31 posted on 04/29/2020 10:06:57 AM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't kn Trump was theow which bathroom to use.)
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To: brianr10
A lawn mower is not considered a small appliance.

Small engine yes, small appliance no.

One of the tenants had a pipe leak in his shop. Trying to get a plumber is not impossible but very hard. So we cut off the water to that area and did a clean up. His wet vac decided to act up. Can't get your wet vac serviced either. I brought mine in and finished the job.

32 posted on 04/29/2020 10:13:38 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Leave it to me to be holdin' the matches when the fire truck shows up & there's nobody else to blame)
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To: Liz
 
 
 
When der Whitmer says we won't open this place
We heil *Hiss* heil *Hiss* right in der Whitmer's face
When der Whitmer says Trump will never win this state
We heil *Hiss* heil *Hiss* right in der Whitmer's face
 

33 posted on 04/29/2020 11:46:17 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami

Whitmer being a female — I know, I know, that’s questionable — the article should be “die” (feminine), not “der” (masculine). If Whitmer is neuter, the article should be “das”.


34 posted on 04/29/2020 11:48:57 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
 
 
Yes, yes, I know - I was sticking with the song. If I do one with the lyrics embedded in it I'll use the other inflection. Ironic - I've been hit by a grammar nazi, about a nazi - ROFLROFL!!! I said that with love, Publius.
 
 

35 posted on 04/29/2020 11:54:36 AM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: lapsus calami
Lieb back at you. (LOL!) I think Whitmer may be neuter.
36 posted on 04/29/2020 11:58:09 AM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill & Publius available at Amazon.)
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To: lapsus calami

Fits right in, doesnt she?


37 posted on 04/29/2020 12:08:40 PM PDT by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: Publius
 
 
She's like something out of a 1970's science fiction show to me - an artificial android or an alien from another galaxy in a humanoid disguise. And with as much warmth and personality.
 
 

38 posted on 04/29/2020 12:11:32 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Liz
 
 
Just like old times.
 
 

39 posted on 04/29/2020 12:25:55 PM PDT by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Libloather

I’ve sort of been collecting these lawsuits. This is the first one I know of that brings up the argument that government has to prove there is an emergency, it can’t just wave it’s arms.

Bring on the experts! We know there are doctors that disagree with Birx and Fauci.


40 posted on 04/29/2020 12:27:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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