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Bloviating about Trumps treatment statements.
vanity | 4-27-2020 | chuckles

Posted on 04/27/2020 11:43:46 AM PDT by chuckles

I was going to let the kerfuffle pass about Trumps "thinking out loud" last week, but as usual, it kept eating at me until I have to say something.

Trump was widely ridiculed for suggesting that science should look into light and temp to treat Covid, and as usual, the morons in the MSM didn't even look into if it has already been done. I thought this would easily be shot down right away, but as usual, nobody said a word.

First of all, a few weeks back, when everyone was crying about lack of PPE, Trump suggested that the masks be cleaned and reused. I don't know if he knew that hospitals already clean things and reuse them by using UV light. There was just the slightest mention that they were beginning to clean equipment with UV light, but that lasted just a moment. We have known that sunlight (UV light) is helpful on many diseases since at least the 1880's. Around 1920, UV treatment of blood was commonly used and widely successful for treating many blood borne diseases and was named UBI or ultraviolet blood irradiation. Another name for it today is used called UVB treatments. The principle is you take out about 5% of a person's blood and run it through a machine with a narrow band UV light next to the blood carrying tubing. It is exposed for a few seconds to damage the virus/bacteria DNA and then re-infuse the blood back into the person's body. It's not long enough to damage the red blood and it makes the immune system components stronger. The doctors can add vitamins and minerals as needed to quicken the person's reaction to the disease. In the case of Covid-19, it could possibly be vitamin B-6, B-12,C, and D, along with zinc. I go to a doctor that does these treatments and has for 50 years with no problems. There is a new treatment from Europe that sticks a fiber in your vein and shines the light directly as the blood passes in the vein. There is no need to completely exchange all the body's blood and best results have been proven to be 5%-7% of volume. Many skin diseases are treated with external UV light. There are different wave links that work better or worse for different diseases. Psoriasis is widely treated with external UV light. The advent of antibiotics pretty much knocked this method of treatment to the curb in the 1950's. Today's expensive alternatives are biologics. Google "The cure that time forgot" to read more. There are light bars that you can purchase today that you can wave over personal items such as phones, TV remotes, toothbrushes, ect to clean them today. Hospitals usually have a room with UV light before a person enters a "clean room". The point is, Trumps' ideas aren't "crazy" and are very logical. What did the media say when a couple of bicycle mechanics told people they wanted to fly? If no one is able to study the unknown we will not ever advance.

The next thing he said was supposedly suggestive of drinking bleach. Do people not realize we drink chlorine in water every day? Back in the army days I was issued chlorine tablets to put in my canteen full of ditch water. We take many disinfectants into our body every day. It is the amount and form that matters. There are many disinfectants other than bleach. Is it possible to find one our bodies can tolerate that Covid-19 can't? A disinfectant doesn't even have to be a chemical. Antibodies should be considered a disinfectant. Back in the old days, women used Lysol for a douche for decades. You can find the ads on YouTube.

The point is nothing Trump suggested was out of bounds of true science. If a scientists already thinks a treatment can't possibly work, he is NOT a true scientist. He mentioned temperature also. Many bacteria die at 180 deg for 3 minutes. Does anyone even know what temp the Covid-19 dies? If they know this temp, can they expose the blood to this temp and cool it before re-infusing it without damaging the red blood cells? There may be some nano tech that could be used, we just never know until we try. I'm absolutely sure here will be challenges to study these treatments, but that shouldn't make them off limits. Sometimes you have to work around problems to solve another problem. I know of a cancer treatment that uses nano molecules that contain chemo poison that enter only cancer cells and release their poison and save the surrounding cells. I know of a treatment for Crohn's that uses pig worms inserted into the colon. Another uses donated stool samples to treat it. Would CNN or MSNBC think that was outrageous and stupid?

Another thing being demonstrated right in plain sight in front of the world is that "scientific models" aren't any better than a guess if you use wrong data. I was trying to get enough gumption to re-watch "An Inconvenient Truth" and make notes of all the failed predictions that said we should have all drowned by 2020 and report it to FR. If I remember correctly, NOT ONE prediction has come about. I would have to watch it again carefully to confidently say that. Today, these same morons have said we have less than 10 years to live. Models are not scientific unless they have correct data. So far, the model given to Trump was off by a factor of 40. If you watch, the models will change daily until the pandemic is over and then they will declare their models were accurate because the model numbers last week were within 100k. The question is not who is a science denier, but who is a real scientist.


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KEYWORDS: coronavanity; covidtreatments; disinfectants; uvlight

1 posted on 04/27/2020 11:43:46 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

TRUMP SAID TO DRINK BLEACH! IMPEACH!


2 posted on 04/27/2020 11:46:42 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: chuckles
(#23)
3 posted on 04/27/2020 11:48:04 AM PDT by yoe (Want to HELP the Slave Trade and Drug Cartels in USA? Vote for a democrat........)
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To: ConservativeDude
"If you drink the bleach, you must impeach?"

-PJ

4 posted on 04/27/2020 11:52:17 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: ConservativeDude

You could at least rhyme it like Johnnie Cochran...

If he said to drink bleach, you must impeach!


5 posted on 04/27/2020 11:54:01 AM PDT by pookie18
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To: chuckles

The next thing he said was supposedly suggestive of drinking bleach.

Cept he didn’t even remotely say that.

He was very excited about the use of UV light “As a Disinfectant” and maybe he was as artful or nuanced in that statement as the superior intellects would have been.

But, when I read what his actual words were that is how it came acros.

BTW, I work with UV light in my industry to protect water delivery systems from the source to the cup and provide pure clean H20

I also know that Sunlight is the Best Disinfectant otherwise playgrounds would be hot bed petri dishes full of germs.

I even have a UV wand for hiking and purifying water.

People who are seized by this got their information from Anderson Cooper who opened his segment saying “THE PRESIDENT LIED!!!” “you just heard the president outright lie”

They need to say crap like this because their ratings are in the toilet and somehow they need to entertain the few remaining viewers they have.


6 posted on 04/27/2020 11:57:53 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: chuckles

If Biden had said we should look into using lysol to disinfect blood, we’d all be having a good laugh about old senile Joe making another dumb verbal blunder. When Trump does the same, don’t make it worse by trying to rationalize it (it was dumb), just acknowledge it and move on. Trying to validate it makes everyone look worse.


7 posted on 04/27/2020 12:00:47 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: chuckles

In reality, what Trump said regarding taking a disinfectant is, in essence, what we do with antibiotics, antivirals and antifungals....we take them by mouth, by IV, topically, transdermally and by nebulizer.

“Definition of disinfectant
: an agent that frees from infection
especially : a chemical that destroys vegetative forms of harmful microorganisms (such as bacteria and fungi) especially on inanimate objects but that may be less effective in destroying spores”

Yes, the term is more commonly used regarding inanimate objects so it was an awkward use...but correct nonetheless.


8 posted on 04/27/2020 12:03:07 PM PDT by RouxStir (No peein' in the gene pool.)
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To: chuckles
This Article refutes the media bias on President Trump's remarks on the use of a disinfectant somewhat stronger than whisky.

(The American Thinker)

9 posted on 04/27/2020 12:14:13 PM PDT by yoe (Want to HELP the Slave Trade and Drug Cartels in USA? Vote for a democrat........)
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To: Wayne07

True, but Trump never said to look into using Lysol to disinfect blood. He was making a general statement which the MSM added the “bleach” comment. They seized on an opportunity to make him look bad (again) by distorting his statement.


10 posted on 04/27/2020 12:18:20 PM PDT by offduty
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To: chuckles
I can't read everything from the a-hole left for my sanity and health but I do see some stuff at times and they are as insane as we think and believe anything they are told,see,or hear. Their group think is creepy and dangerous.

BTW,they think exactly the same way about us.

11 posted on 04/27/2020 12:39:52 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: chuckles

It’s more likely the military gave you iodine tablets for water purification, not chlorine.


12 posted on 04/27/2020 12:50:45 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: pookie18

oh gosh lol


13 posted on 04/27/2020 12:55:53 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: offduty

“And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. “


14 posted on 04/27/2020 1:28:18 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: T-Bird45

Nope, it was chlorine tabs. There should be some Viet Nam era soldiers here to confirm that.


15 posted on 04/27/2020 1:47:18 PM PDT by chuckles
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To: offduty
I agree that they changed his statement, but they would say any disinfectant had to include bleach, just as Drudge put up a picture of Clorox. They failed to think about antibodies as dis (the opposite of something) infectant (something that infects). Almost any medicine could be considered a disinfectant if it killed the infection. Whether it's radiation or a chemical, what does it matter.

My point was the media thinks like a 5 year old chuckling at someone's fart in school. They didn't even bother to look to see if there might be a company using a UV LED light inserted into a breathing tube to treat Covid. It immediately caused the You Tube videos and Twitter, and Vimeo to remove a company called Ayto's Biomedical video's demonstrating this. Their reason,.....The video's didn't subscribe to the companies guidelines! Nobody noticed it until Trump said something.

Meanwhile Biden gets a pass on his digital fondling of a co worker with no questions asked.

16 posted on 04/27/2020 1:59:58 PM PDT by chuckles
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