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Does the novel coronavirus have any links to a high-security lab in Wuhan?
Live Science ^ | 18 April 2020 | Jeanna Bryner

Posted on 04/18/2020 11:31:05 AM PDT by Golden Eagle

An unprecedented amount of research has been focused solely on understanding the novel coronavirus that has taken nearly 150,000 lives across the globe. And while scientists have gotten to know some of the most intimate details of the virus called SARS-CoV-2, one question has evaded any definitive answers — Where did the virus come from?

Live Science contacted several experts, and the reality, they said, is that we may never know where this deadly coronavirus originated. Among the theories circulating: That SARS-CoV-2 arose naturally, after passing from bats to a secondary animal and then to humans; that it was deliberately engineered and then accidentally released by humans; or that researchers were studying a naturally-occurring virus that subsequently escaped from a high-security biolab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: bioweapon; chinesevirus; coronavirus; covid19; wuflu; wuhan; wuhanflu; wuhansars
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Let’s look at these prevailing theories separately, based on other info available at the link:

1. SARS-CoV-2 arose naturally, after passing from bats to a secondary animal and then to humans. Possible, but despite extensive research, nothing coming close to the necessary intermediary has been found in nature. Also, the original bat source is in a very unique and remote area of China, literally hundreds of miles away from Wuhan.

2. Researchers were studying a naturally-occurring virus that subsequently escaped from a high-security biolab, the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in China. This is the main theory on television lately, however it has an obvious fallacy at its core, as once again despite extensive research the necessary intermediary animal or process has not been found. Therefore how would the lab have found it naturally, but no one else did, or can now?

3. It was deliberately engineered and then accidentally released by humans. Once again, without evidence of the intermediary in nature, despite their continued searching, this option becomes more and more likely. Now the MSM will attempt to dissuade you from considering this option, by citing many scientists that insist the COVID-19 genome shows no sign of explicit manipulation. As this article describes, however, labs such as the one in Wuhan are able to stimulate natural progression of a genome, or even force it to take trajectories it otherwise would not have done on its own, and advance that (unnatural but appearing natural) progression at extreme speeds. Add to this the admitted fact that the Wuhan lab was housing the closest relative to the current Coronavirus, and was very possibly the only place that genome was kept for study.

Major publication artcles mentioning option #3 by way of simulated natural progression just became available yesterday, best I can tell. They are probably the result of the obvious logical fallacy in option #2 currently being promoted by the media. But if we’re not careful, they’ll just sweep it all under the rug and say we’ll just never know where it came from, as this article from a supposed science magazine even says right near the top.

1 posted on 04/18/2020 11:31:05 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle

George Soros paid Bill Gates to release the coronavirus from the same place that Q is hiding Barack Obama’s real birth certificate.


2 posted on 04/18/2020 11:33:22 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: Golden Eagle

Just search for “Gain of Function” and Coronavirus. It’s ALL right there.


3 posted on 04/18/2020 11:34:14 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Golden Eagle
The problem with your final and preferred explanation is that the virus shares no characteristics with any known “bio-weapon”. I spent a lot of years working as one of the lead officers on a Hazmat team. We drilled with the military several times a year. Why would anyone design a “bio-weapon” that a vast majority of those infected suffer no symptoms from?

A little over two weeks ago 11 people on the fire department I retired from tested positive. Only 1 developed any symptoms and he thought that they were from his seasonal allergies. Now they all test negative. “Bio-weapon”, highly unlikely.

4 posted on 04/18/2020 11:40:59 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: Golden Eagle

here’s what I want to know.. how many people that worked at that lab caught the virus? and when?

the more that caught it near the beginning, the higher the chance it originated there.


5 posted on 04/18/2020 11:42:03 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: FewsOrange

Makes sense to me! Is the House still safe?


6 posted on 04/18/2020 11:43:46 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Golden Eagle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bXWGxhd7ic


7 posted on 04/18/2020 11:45:53 AM PDT by crz
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To: Golden Eagle

The Ministry of Propaganda has orders to squash any talk like that.

They haven’t come up with a good tag like “birther” yet.


8 posted on 04/18/2020 11:47:38 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: FewsOrange

The jpeg posted by Obama is a forgery.

No one has seen a document.


9 posted on 04/18/2020 11:49:36 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Golden Eagle
Actually look at this in reality

1) Wet markets have been in existence for a thousand years, No issues
2) Witnesses reported no bats at the market during the time of the outbreak
3) Wuhan was reported to have had an uprising weeks before complaining about incinerators creating pollution. irony is that crematoriums after the outbreak could not keep up.
4) China has been stealing viruses from Canada and the US

10 posted on 04/18/2020 11:50:19 AM PDT by Bommer (I am a MAGA-Deplorian! It is the way! It is the only way!)
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To: fireman15

What if you want to get rid of all the old people with underlying health conditions? The virus is a boomer remover.


11 posted on 04/18/2020 11:51:01 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: fireman15
Why would anyone design a “bio-weapon” that a vast majority of those infected suffer no symptoms from?

I made no mention (nor did the article) about it possibly being designed as a bio-weapon, originally, as I don’t think it was. I primarily reach this conclusion based on the fact that there are many published articles about the coronavirus manipulation work that was being done at the Wuhan lab, that was originally funded by US organizations, most prominently the National Institute of Health, the University of North Carolina, Harvard, etc, back around 2015. Those efforts were almost certainly NOT geared towards weapon development.

That being said, the communist Chinese and WHO response did very likely weaponize the virus, and inflict it upon the world. It may have been medically somewhat impotent, but economically it has been fairly catastrophic. I see that as a completely separate discussion, however. Thanks.

12 posted on 04/18/2020 11:53:12 AM PDT by Golden Eagle (There is no difference between the Justice Department under Eric Holder, and Jeff Sessions - DJT)
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The weight of evidence that is mounting points to the lab and its research, but as you point out, there is no hard evidence yet that this was the end result of a biological weapon development process. In fact, it almost certainly was not.

But the thing to remember about China is that there’s really no such thing as purely “civilian” research, at least as we understand that. Everything is dual-use; military and civil.

It’s a certainty that the virologists working at the Wuhan lab were keeping their eyes open for possible military applications for their research, but that doesn’t mean that this particular virus was their preferred weapon, or that it was intentionally released.

But, that doesn’t really matter to indict China’s leadership for spreading this.

The likely fact that it escaped their lab is sufficient motivation for them to try to cover up the nature, source, and effects of the virus. And they may well have made a strategic decision to let this spread around the world while attempting to contain it within their own country.

The focus, and heat need to be directed at the CCP. That’s “Phase 4” of the response as we dig our way out of this mess, created possibly deliberately by a hostile foreign power.


13 posted on 04/18/2020 11:59:41 AM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your dut!!y in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Golden Eagle

Does the novel coronavirus have any links to a high-security lab in Wuhan?

The question answers itself but, I’m willing to believe it was an accident but, their response was and is crimes against humanity

The whole world should judge then as such and treat them with extreme prejudice accordingly


14 posted on 04/18/2020 12:12:07 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Bommer

Zactly!

I’m suppose to believe all of sudden this thing jumped from animal to human and human to human?

There was no manipulation?

Just like all the fk’d up viruses that came there over the last 20 years...


15 posted on 04/18/2020 12:14:35 PM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: fireman15

If you wanted to develop a bioweapon to destroy the US economy, what properties would you assign to it?


16 posted on 04/18/2020 12:17:43 PM PDT by Cold Heart (.)
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To: fireman15

Your post is flawed on several accounts. First,you jumped to the conclusion that “engineered” assumes that that implies weaponized. I, personally, believe that the most plausible explanation is that it was engineered in order infect test animals for vaccine development.

Secondly, you assume that it could not have been engineered as a bio weapon because it didn’t work well. If it escaped, then it is not necessarily a finished product. The intent of the engineering could have been weapon development. But they just were not done, yet.


17 posted on 04/18/2020 12:21:27 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Golden Eagle
Regardless, the Wuhan virus originated in China and by the intentional neglect of the CommunistChinese government to warn of it has caused tens of thousands of deaths. Cancel all debt to the Peoples 'Republic' of China !
18 posted on 04/18/2020 12:21:36 PM PDT by A strike (" Was that wrong? Should I not have done this? " - Costanza)
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To: fireman15

“Why would anyone design a “bio-weapon” that a vast majority of those infected suffer no symptoms from?”

The evidence is inconclusive regarding if this virus was designed as a bio-weapon or naturally occurring. However if they were intending to make it a weapon it could have gotten out before it was completed. That would explain why it is so inefficient.


19 posted on 04/18/2020 12:42:12 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (It's no coincidence that the DemocRAT/media complex always sides with America's enemies.)
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To: fireman15

It actually makes perfect sense when you think about it. Coronaviruses usually can’t cause “significant human disease”. Since this is a “Gain of Function” Super Bug made in a lab now it’s in the wild it is already attenuating. It sounds like the CFR in January in China was a lot higher than 5%. So at 1 generation a day in about 100 generations it has already lost a lot of it’s “punch”. It “might” keep attenuating right down to the usual “native” lethality of Coronavirus which is “wimp”. IOW this may be why they felt they could “play” with this bug, it’s a wimp. Who knows? Another 100 generations and the CFR could be half what it is now. And again as much in another 100 generations. It ain’t the “world killer” but it is one hell of a wake up.


20 posted on 04/18/2020 1:05:45 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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