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People selling gold and silver to meet margin calls
Investors | 19 March 2020 | Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

Posted on 03/19/2020 3:48:03 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

People are selling gold and silver to meet margin calls. Also, nearly impossible to get physical delivery of silver under $20 an ounce.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: covid19stockmarket; gold; margin; metals; silver
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In our for what it is worth department.
1 posted on 03/19/2020 3:48:04 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Curious. The “price” of silver is about $13 an ounce but you cannot buy it at that price?


2 posted on 03/19/2020 3:52:20 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

I was wondering that too.


3 posted on 03/19/2020 3:53:27 AM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: wastoute

Yeah you can. I THINK

You can buy a futures contract and if you don’t sell the futures contract by expiration I believe you still have the choice of receiving 100 ounces or having it settled financially on day of.


4 posted on 03/19/2020 3:56:56 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists my curseoint fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: wastoute

Yes. A 1oz American silver eagle, if you can get one which I doubt, would cost upwards to $25 dollars, so they are twice the $12 spot price.


5 posted on 03/19/2020 3:57:18 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: HighSierra5

I bought a bunch back when and was thinking of buying a second “bunch” at $13 an ounce to average down to about $17. Too bad.


6 posted on 03/19/2020 3:57:26 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: dp0622

I trust you, dp. You’re a finance guy. You can buy a futures contract at today’s price? Are they in bunches? 100 oz., 1,000 oz. etc.?


7 posted on 03/19/2020 3:59:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

don’t trust me too much. been a long time

looks like closest contract month price is 12.06 and contract spec is 5,000 troy ounces

100 troy ounces is gold, i think


8 posted on 03/19/2020 4:11:54 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists my curseoint fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: dp0622

I’m looking at a table I don’t understand at all. It appears lots of silver are being “auctioned”. “Volume” is ounces? I would hate to place a bid and discover it was pounds.


9 posted on 03/19/2020 4:14:06 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

settle on 3rd friday of every month, i think


10 posted on 03/19/2020 4:14:27 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists my curseoint fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: wastoute

This has been going on for years. The assumption is price manipulation. It’s why I have never sold. Sure, they’ll let you SELL at their sell price, but good luck buying at their “buy” price.


11 posted on 03/19/2020 4:16:35 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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This stuff is fricking voodoo. There is only one contract for “April” that I see and it’s only for 250. I can understand all the numbers change as people place bids but the VOLUME changes, too? WTH?


12 posted on 03/19/2020 4:18:49 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: dp0622

There’s a contract for May for 26,000 or so ounces and the Volume changes every few seconds. Bizarre.


13 posted on 03/19/2020 4:20:17 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: dp0622

I’m out. I’ve learned too many lessons in life the hard way.


14 posted on 03/19/2020 4:21:31 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Yes, all day long. Just search sellers of silver at spot and there are numerous.

I usually go to the website findbullion and they will "seek" prices. Kind of like ammoseek for ammo

15 posted on 03/19/2020 4:25:38 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: wastoute

The price is based on the COMEX paper futures.

The physical market is based on the bullion in your hand. The place where I have been buying had very few Silver Eagles to but. And even then, it would take a couple of weeks to get them.

This is the large scale exposure of the manipulation of the metals market.

It’s not going to be pretty for paper gold traders.


16 posted on 03/19/2020 4:27:13 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: wastoute

DO NOT venture into that marketplace until you’ve educated yourself. You have a lot of questions indicating you are new at this.

They will turn you over, have their way with you, and THEN take all of your money.

You are much better off buying physical metals.


17 posted on 03/19/2020 4:30:12 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: wastoute

ditto here

i’m too old to take the chances i once took

51, but that’s a lot older than 31

my risk taking days are over

and life is boring as #### without it


18 posted on 03/19/2020 4:32:11 AM PDT by dp0622 (Radicals, racists my curseoint fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
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To: Vermont Lt; eartick

Thanks. I was seriously thinking about it for a moment. Imagine. If you could buy a bunch of silver to take delivery in a couple weeks it would be fantastic. I could give my grandkids a silver mine they could keep under their bed.


19 posted on 03/19/2020 4:32:57 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: dp0622

I got 16 years on you but I am always seeking ways to transfer wealth to my grandkids. The government is always looking for ways to give it to someone else.


20 posted on 03/19/2020 4:34:15 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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