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Supreme Court will decide the fate of Obama health care law
Associated Press ^ | March 2, 2020 | Mark Sherman

Posted on 03/02/2020 8:14:32 AM PST by Olog-hai

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To: thingumbob

If (and a big if) RBG is no longer a Supreme Court Justice and the third Trump justice is in her place, I wonder what would John Roberts opinion be? Would he still try to save Obamacare and be in the losing minority position or try to join the majority so he could write the opinion?


21 posted on 03/02/2020 9:06:18 AM PST by convoter2016
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To: lastchance

“If the statute is allowed to remain as originally written the US will have single payer government health care. That is what the insurance companies want. “

LOL! Why would insurance companies want something that would put them out of business!


22 posted on 03/02/2020 9:08:34 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
LOL! Why would insurance companies want something that would put them out of business!

Good question.

Although if one pries away a few layers of the health insurance industry, they may find that the owners (shareholders) are not the same people as those that run the various companies. If the government promises the handful of elite controllers of said companies a golden opportunity, they may well defy the shareholders (those millions of us that own shares outright or through mutual funds in our investments and 401K plans) and push forward with the self-enriching scheme to liquidate their companies in favor of the spoils of government largess.

How many of these jack wagons actually vote democrat? You can be voting for democrats if you prefer freedom and free enterprise.

23 posted on 03/02/2020 9:14:31 AM PST by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA!)
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To: meyer

“Good question. “

Wrong answer.


24 posted on 03/02/2020 9:17:34 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: meyer

Correction: You can NOT be voting for democrats if you prefer freedom and free enterprise.


25 posted on 03/02/2020 9:17:42 AM PST by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA!)
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To: blackdog

Oh, for sure.


26 posted on 03/02/2020 9:17:54 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: TexasGator

It won’t put them out of business. You can be sure they will find a way to keep a hand in. One way is by pushing to allow a secondary private supplemental insurance market. Several proposed plans call for such policies to be permitted.


27 posted on 03/02/2020 9:32:56 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: TexasGator

It won’t put them out of business. Anymore than Medicare has put them out of business. I don’t think insurance companies figured on so many people simple opting for a penalty rather than purchasing mandated coverage.


28 posted on 03/02/2020 9:35:18 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: lastchance

“You can be sure they will find a way to keep a hand in.”

Close. There would have been no Obamacare except the dems went to the insurance companies to help write the rules.


29 posted on 03/02/2020 9:43:33 AM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
There would have been no Obamacare except the dems went to the insurance companies to help write the rules.

1) Cut them in on the graft to get their support.
2) Let them do the heavy work of lobbying corrupt Congress critters.
3) SCROOOOOOOOOOOO them later.


30 posted on 03/02/2020 9:45:46 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Standard Democrap Operating Procedure.


31 posted on 03/02/2020 9:46:07 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: samtheman

Roberts name appears to be on a flight log to a certain Island. If the image of it was not fake. There is no question that the deep state has something really bad on Roberts.


32 posted on 03/02/2020 9:51:04 AM PST by Revel
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To: convoter2016
I think Justice Roberts is DS compromised because of the matter of his adoption of his kids. BUT, I think he is an honorable guy who is also a letter of the law guy. Because he's compromised Roberts will have to vote in favor of the Obamacare like before.

With that in mind, I posit the following: "Why push this case off until after the election?"

It's my opinion that Roberts is doing the only thing an honorable man who is compromised can do, which is: to delay the case on the docket and hope that another Rat Supreme bites the dust so his vote won't tip the balance this time.

Just a theory of mine, that's all.

33 posted on 03/02/2020 9:58:34 AM PST by thingumbob (Antifa. Carrying on Hitler's legacy one beating at a time.)
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To: Olog-hai; All
"Supreme Court will decide the fate of Obama health care law"
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Patriots are reminded that several generations of pre-FDR era, state sovereignty-respecting Supreme Court justices had used healthcare as an example in some case opinions to clarify the federal government's constitutionally limited powers, the misguided Roberts Court seemingly ignoring these clarifications imo.

In fact, regarding the question of the constitutionality of the so-called Obamacare insurance mandate, Supreme Court clarification of the fed's constitutionally limited powers had also included the case decision that insurance is a contract, not commerce, insurance policies therefore out of the scope of Congress's Commerce Clause powers, regardless if buyer and seller are domiciled in different states.

Note that Paul v. Virginia was eventually overturned by United States v. South-Eastern Underwriters Ass'n (South-Eastern Underwriters Ass'n).

H O W E V E R…

A few years before FDR's renegade Court overturned Paul, state sovereignty-ignoring activist majority justices had effectively scandalously repealed the 10th Amendment in Wickard v. Filburn (Wickard) imo.

More specifically, using inappropriate words like “concept” and “implicit,” the excerpt below from Wickard shows what was left of the defense of 10th Amendment (10A)-protected state sovereignty by the last of state sovereignty-respecting majority justices in United States v. Butler, FDR’s state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices later blatantly ignoring the reasonable Butler interpretation of 10A when they scandalously decided Wickard in Congress’s favor imo.

Getting back to Paul v. Virginia, the corrupt Court's politically correct repeal of 10A in Wickard gave it the "license" to overturn Paul in South-Eastern Underwriters Ass'n imo.

Finally, Supreme Court clarifications that the states have never expressly constitutionally given the feds the specific power to dictate policy, regulate, tax and spend in the name of INTRAstate healthcare is further evidenced by the following.

Speaker Pelosi seemingly took advantage of the scandalous, politically correct repeal of 10A by FDR's state sovereignty-ignoring activist justices. This is evidenced by her wrongful ignoring of a repeatedly introduced resolution to propose a healthcare amendment to the Constitution to the states for ratification before irresponsibly ramming Obamacare through the House imo.

Not only did Pelosi scandalously ignore the resolution for a healthcare amendment to the Constitution, but she also wrongly ignored the will of the Article V state supermajority by doing so.

Remember in November!

MAGA, now KAGA! (Keep America Great Always!)

Supporting PDJT with a new patriot Congress that will promise to fully support his already excellent work for MAGA will effectively give fast-working Trump a third term in office imo.

34 posted on 03/02/2020 10:34:10 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: blackdog

Ahh, sweet dreams.


35 posted on 03/02/2020 10:35:03 AM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: fatima
They can replace him?


Yea, You need a certain amount of Senate votes

Just like IMPEACHMENT

36 posted on 03/02/2020 10:35:42 AM PST by KavMan
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To: fatima
They can replace him?


When we replace RBG with Amy Coney Barrett, we'll just give Democrats Merrick Garland if they vote yes on getting rid of Roberts!

Gotta teach these RINO's a lesson!

37 posted on 03/02/2020 10:39:03 AM PST by KavMan
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To: KavMan

Thanks.


38 posted on 03/02/2020 12:56:14 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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