https://biologos.org/articles/not-so-dry-bones-an-interview-with-mary-schweitzer
Were you nervous before publishing about soft tissue in dinosaur bones?
Yes, very. After we had the data, I didnt publish for over a year. I was terrified. First of all, I dont like attention or the spotlight and I knew this was going to get a lot of attention. Im not surprised that the response of the community has been skeptical, and I guess Im grateful for that because the scrutiny has made me much more cautious and therefore, made me a much better scientist. I go above what is usually required to validate my data before I publishmy colleagues are just doing their jobs to be skeptical, a scientists job is not to prove things but to question them.
One thing that does bother me, though, is that young earth creationists take my research and use it for their own message, and I think they are misleading people about it. Pastors and evangelists, who are in a position of leadership, are doubly responsible for checking facts and getting things right, but they have misquoted me and misrepresented the data. Theyre looking at this research in terms of a false dichotomy [science versus faith] and that doesnt do anybody any favors. Still, its not surprising theyve reacted this waythe bone that I first studied I got from Jack, and when I gave him our initial results he was rather angryI called him a few times and by my third call he said, Dammit Mary the creationists are just going to love you. But I said, This is just what the data say Im not making it up.
I dont think my being a Christian has anything to do with the fact that the data Im proposing is challenging. Ive only had one or two people say they dont trust my science because of my faith. So if Im doing science according to the rules, which Im doing to honor God, and Im aware that anything and everything I do could be proven wrong tomorrow, then my job is to be as careful and cautious as I can and not overstate my data. All I can do is the best that I can do.
So, that leaves us with two alternatives for interpretation: either the dinosaurs arent as old as we think they are, or maybe we dont know exactly how these things get preserved. Weve known for a while that skin gets preserved. Its the same with anything controversialfor example, it was decades ago now that somebody first proposed that continents move, and everybody laughed and said that shouldnt be possible. Nowadays if you say that isnt true youd be a laughingstock. DNA, toonobody wanted to believe that DNA was the carrier of biological information because its too simple a molecule.
Any time you turn over a theory that has taken a lot of work to establish, of course challenging that theory should be hard. Thats why when we were preparing to publish, we did these things again and again and again. Even so, people criticized me saying we should have had more data, but there was no way to get more data without more funding and no way to get more funding without publishing our initial results. The scientific response was exactly what it should be: a wait and see response. I have a lot of respect for the people who wouldnt just immediately accept our results.
Even now, I wouldnt say its widely accepted that what were seeing is soft tissue from dinosaurs. What I wish would happen is more people would follow up on this. These results are not trivial to attain, and it requires a lot of repetition on specialized instruments. Because we cross so many disciplines in the effort to get molecular information from fossil bone, I think its easier to publish in other areas. Also, weve found that the longer a bone sits on the shelf, the less likely you are to find anything, so museum specimens, no matter how pretty, are not the best for our work. Bones that become fossils have been in stasis with the environment for millions of years, and then when we dig them up they are exposed to light and oxygenwhich makes the degradation that had been arrested start again. I dont think what were doing here will really be accepted widely, until lots of different groups are doing it regularly. But its hard, its controversial, its expensive, and its done inside in a laband most paleontologists like to be outside, in the field.
And the speed of light is slowing down ... but too many ‘scientists’ still choose to disbelieve it.
Brave woman, Mary Schweitzer.
She did exactly what a scientist is supposed to do. Follow the data.
She and Jan Smit are heroes of mine. Her for reporting her findings, him for stepping aside and giving full credit to Luis and Walter Alvarez. He had done all the work, and had all the data, only a case of mono prevented him from reviewing the data and publishing first.
No scientist should care or consider what a creationist might say in response to their findings - or what anyone might say.
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