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Helicopter Nearly Cleared Blinding Clouds Before Crash That Killed Kobe Bryant, 8 Others: NTSB
KTLA NEWS ^ | February 7, 2020 | Jennifer McGraw

Posted on 02/08/2020 6:57:41 AM PST by L.A.Justice

The pilot of the helicopter that crashed and killed Kobe Bryant and eight others was almost out of blinding clouds when he suddenly plunged and crashed into a Southern California hillside, investigators and aviation experts indicated.

Ara Zobayan had told air traffic control he was climbing to 4,000 feet and he rose to 2,300 feet, according to an investigative update released Friday from the National Transportation Safety Board.

The helicopter was just 100 feet from the cloud tops and conceivably would have broken through into clear air in a matter of seconds. Air traffic controllers had advised Zobayan that the cloud tops were at 2,400 feet. Camera footage later reviewed by the NTSB showed nearby clouds at that estimated height.

The NTSB update didn’t make any conclusion about what caused the Jan. 26 crash in Calabasas, northwest of Los Angeles, because the investigation remains underway and a final report isn’t expected for a year or so. However, the update did say there was no sign of mechanical failure based on wreckage examined by experts at the scene.

Investigators also believe that since a tree branch at the crash site was cut, the twin engines were working and the rotors turning at the time of impact. All four of the helicopter's blades had similar damage, the update stated.

An unidentified witness told the NTSB the hillside where the crash occurred was shrouded in mist when he heard the helicopter approaching. It sounded normal and he then saw the blue-and-white aircraft emerge from the fog moving forward and down. It started to roll to the left, and he caught a glimpse of the aircraft’s belly. Within 2 seconds, it slammed into the hillside just below him.

Veteran pilots have suggested that Zobayan became disoriented in the thick atmosphere.

The pilot’s last maneuvers suggest he tried to pop up above the clouds, and he did ascend for perhaps a minute before turning left, said Mike Sagely, a helicopter pilot in the Los Angeles area with 35 years of flying experience.

When pilots inadvertently enter clouds and try to turn instead of still ascending, “probably in the neighborhood of 80 to 90 percent of the time, it’s catastrophic,” Sagely said.

“When he went into the clouds, he had a full-on emergency,” Sagely said.

The helicopter was descending at 4,000 feet per minute and slammed into the hillside at more than 180 mph.

Air safety consultant Kipp Lau said the speed of the aircraft’s descent indicated “you’ve certainly lost control of the aircraft.”

The crash occurred as Bryant and the other passengers were flying from Orange County to Ventura County to attend a girls basketball tournament at Bryant's Mamba Sports Academy. He coached his 13-year-old daughter Gianna's team. She and two teammates died.

A public memorial for Bryant and the other victims is scheduled for Feb. 24 at the Staples Center, where Bryant starred for the Lakers. The date 2/24 corresponds with the No. 24 jersey he wore and the No. 2 worn by Gianna.

Zobayan was a regular pilot for Bryant and the chief pilot for Island Express Helicopters, with more than 8,200 hours of flight time. He was certified to fly solely using instruments — a more difficult rating to attain that allows pilots to fly at night and through clouds when the ground isn't visible — and was a pilot to other celebrities including Los Angeles Clippers star Kawhi Leonard and Kylie Jenner.

During the flight with Bryant's group, Zobayan did not report any equipment problems and sounded calm while communicating to air traffic controllers. His final transmission said he was going to climb above the clouds. Eight seconds after reaching peak altitude, he started the fateful descent.

Former Island Express pilot Kurt Deetz, who regularly flew Bryant to games at the Staples Center, said reading the NTSB's report reinforced how dangerously fast the helicopter was traveling in conditions that had prompted the Los Angeles Police Department and the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department to ground their smaller copters.

“Normally in those conditions, you’re pretty cautious. You’re proceeding slowly,” Deetz said.

The impact tore the helicopter apart. All aboard died from blunt force trauma.

The 50-year-old Zobayan's most recent flight review included training on inadvertently flying into bad weather conditions. It covered how to recover if the aircraft’s nose is pointed too far up or down and what to do if the helicopter banks severely to one side. He earned satisfactory grades in the review, which took place in May 2019.

Deetz said Zobayan previously had told him that he did not have actual experience flying in clouds, despite being certified. Deetz said that isn't uncommon.

Bryant's helicopter did not have a device called the Terrain Awareness and Warning System, known as TAWS, that signals when an aircraft is in danger of hitting ground. The NTSB has recommended the system be mandatory for helicopters, but the Federal Aviation Administration only requires it for air ambulances. U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Brad Sherman, both California Democrats, have called for the FAA to mandate the devices.

The others killed included Orange Coast College baseball coach John Altobelli, his wife, Keri and daughter Alyssa; Bryant's friend and assistant coach, Christina Mauser; and Sarah Chester and her daughter Payton, 14. A public memorial for the Altobelli family will be held Monday at Angel Stadium in Anaheim.


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KEYWORDS: aviation; california; kobe; ntsb
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To: Leep

**His pilot had the flattest chrome dome i have ever seen.**

That is partly the result of the close up of a selfie, and the low, angled up, position of the camera. The smartphone cameras I’ve used are not good for great close ups.


41 posted on 02/08/2020 9:05:08 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker

“He might have been able to punch through to clear air above, but would have been trapped on top with nowhere to go but back to SNA. “

Holy cow...another great point. So, the pilot screwed up the moment he entered the clouds...rather than turning around.


42 posted on 02/08/2020 9:06:04 AM PST by moovova
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To: Fester Chugabrew

If you are not a pilot you don’t know what spatial disorientation is. This is a clear case of it. He had no experience in actual IFR conditions. It is scary if you don’t know how to maneuver in these conditions.


43 posted on 02/08/2020 9:21:35 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (I'm not tired of Winning yet! Please, continue on!)
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To: L.A.Justice

This is a dumb question based on complete ignorance of helicopter piloting, but even $100 toy quadrocopters these can have an autopilot feature that keeps them hovering/asending/descending in-place.

Why don’t helicopters have such a feature?

I admit it’s a dumb question. I am just curious.


44 posted on 02/08/2020 9:24:22 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: Tucker39

It wasn’t his helicopter. He was using a helicopter taxi service. Do you check the drivers license of the driver when you take a taxi?


45 posted on 02/08/2020 9:25:33 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth.)
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To: eyeamok

**Spatial Disorientation, it didn’t help that he was doing 165 knots, he could have been going 20 knots and hovered over the freeway, unfortunately getthereitis is all too often a fatal decision.**

Yes, that’s what I said a couple days after the crash, when I saw on flightradar24 that, except for the circling around Hollywood (which maybe Kobe wanted him to do for the passengers), he was flying close to max cruise speed most of the time. Good way to get behind the ac when suddenly you have too much to do all at once. According to the sale listing of the bird when Illinios was selling it, it was IFR equipped, and had autopilot. The autopilot could have reduced his workload in his ascent into the clouds. I’m guessing that he didn’t use it.


46 posted on 02/08/2020 9:26:19 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: L.A.Justice

Pilot Error, the end...


47 posted on 02/08/2020 9:27:50 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: L.A.Justice

A helicopter isn’t a horse shoe or hand grenade.


48 posted on 02/08/2020 9:39:58 AM PST by bgill
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To: L.A.Justice

And you can bet the local news here in LA will cover it every day until then,they don’t cover much news here only fluff and junk and every newscast has a animal story.


49 posted on 02/08/2020 9:49:02 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: moovova

im sure hed flown that route many many times and knew the terrain he was starting to fly over....should have just stayed low, SLOWED DOWN, and just returned to Van Nuys....nope, he just had to get there...


50 posted on 02/08/2020 9:56:58 AM PST by basalt
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To: US_MilitaryRules

gotta be a awful feeling..that first twinge of panic....


51 posted on 02/08/2020 10:01:36 AM PST by basalt
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To: L.A.Justice

The pilot’s a murderer in my eyes. Arrogant POS killed a bunch of kids and ruined several families.

He knew better, he did it anyway.


52 posted on 02/08/2020 10:11:24 AM PST by Levy78
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To: Leep

Face of a child killer.


53 posted on 02/08/2020 10:12:20 AM PST by Levy78
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To: basalt
m sure hed flown that route many many times and knew the terrain he was starting to fly over.

I suspect the NTSB will look into to see if the pilot made any attempt at flight planning that day. A resident near the crash site said the fog was the worse he had seen it in the 17 years he lived there..

54 posted on 02/08/2020 10:14:01 AM PST by EVO X
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To: going hot

Plus the moron was doing 150knts or whatever.


55 posted on 02/08/2020 10:21:03 AM PST by Levy78
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To: EVO X

theres one video ive seen of another chopper hovering over the burning wreckage...not sure how long after the actual impact, but man, you literally cant see half way up the the surrounding hills and mountains...very dense fog


56 posted on 02/08/2020 10:26:31 AM PST by basalt
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To: Levy78

the ol “bah, ive flown in a lot worse than this...just leave it to me”.....


57 posted on 02/08/2020 10:29:30 AM PST by basalt
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To: L.A.Justice

Nearly isn’t good enough, unless it’s horseshoes or hand grenades...


58 posted on 02/08/2020 10:32:44 AM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: Moonman62

He was instrument rated, but flying into instrument conditions violated corporate policy and their certificate for operation.
....
So does crashing... Sounds like he was inadvertently IMC. Seems like there would be a procedure for that.


59 posted on 02/08/2020 10:52:47 AM PST by Pocketdoor
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To: basalt
theres one video ive seen of another chopper hovering over the burning wreckage...not sure how long after the actual impact, but man, you literally cant see half way up the the surrounding hills and mountains...very dense fog

There is a Sheriff's station helo pad about a mile or so away from the crash site. It might have come from there, but haven't seen any reports confirming it...

60 posted on 02/08/2020 10:53:22 AM PST by EVO X
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