Posted on 01/31/2020 11:22:18 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
Unless you can cite a source, I call BS on that.
http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/06/11/understanding-the-ukrainians-in-wwii-part-2-stories-of-ukrainians-in-the-red-army/
Here is a link.
http://www.pobeda1945.su/division/3434
On top of that it is pretty much logical to name fronts after areas of operation and not after ethnic composition of troop involved.
Using a brain also helps to realize that Ukraine was occupied by the Germans in 1941 and Soviet recruiters couldn’t conscript any regular troops en-masse there.
The Ukrainians fighting the Germans were partisans and not regular troops. They didn’t belong to Soviet divisions and fronts.
‘Ukrainian front’ of course was an enormous group of forces including the entire army of Wojsko Polskie - actual Polish military and not the British puppets, all under Soviet command.
I am now talking specifically about 100th MRD because that moron Zelensky singled it out as a ‘Ukrainian’ force liberated Auschwitz.
If you can’t read the original I’d translate.
100th was formed in Vologda in March, 1942 and active since July 14, 1942.
It included officers who were veterans of a Soviet-Finnish war and recruits from Vologda, Archangelsk and Republic of Komi.
It was honorary named ‘Lvov division’ on July 27,1944 for the role in liberation of Lvov.
There were more Finns and Moksha tribesmen than Ukrainians.
I believe the Red Army unit that came upon Auschwitz was the 222nd. Rifle Regiment.
Soviet recruiters couldn’t conscript any regular troops en-masse there.
Not true. Soviets were desperate for manpower to replace loses. My friends grandfather was conscripted from a village with all the males. He was never heard of again. During that time records were not well kept and his widow therefore never received a pension after the war.
Auschwitz was several camps not a single one. Different units participated in liberation of different camps.
I am talking about 100th ‘Lvov division’ specifically because Zelensky singled it out as a Ukrainian force which is false.
I am not saying Ukrainians didn’t contribute to the Red Army efforts. They were a large part of the Soviet military. But Red Army included many other peoples including Polish, Kazakh, Uzbek, Korean and so on. The Japanese and Germans served in the Red Army too and even Americans.
Up to this day Ukrainians make a majority of so-called e-4 mafia in the Russian military. It was almost an exclusively Ukrainian club in the Soviet military. Nobody says they did nothing.
I am now pointing out at Zelensky’s intellectual dishonesty.
He doesn’t say about the involvement of Ukrainians in the Soviet military invaded Poland in 1939 but he says Auschwitz was liberated by ‘Ukrainian’ 100th MRD which was anything but Ukrainian.
Yes Auschwitz was two main camps actually. Auschwitz was a slave labor camp with numerous satellite war production plants, like Siemens for one and I.G. Farben for another. Prisoners were contracted by the SS for mere pfennings on the dollar. None of course ever paid to the slave labors of course. It was also where the bastard Mengele did his horrible work. There was a small gas chamber at Auschwitz to do away with sick and exhausted prisoners who were of no further use to the SS.
The other facility was Birkenau. The only thing that went on there was extermination. Four large gas chambers and
crematorium were located there. It was straight off the train and turned to ashes in an hour or two.>
Yes, you are right. The official name was Auschwitz-Birkenau.
Zhukov, Rokossovsky and Konev won the war; Stalin’s only input was to not have them murdered or imprisoned.
But, of course, the Truth was the first casualty of Communism.
You are, indeed, correct regarding Auschwitz and Birkenau.
My wife’s uncle was a “guest” at Birkenau (and 3 of Herr Hitler’s other “resorts”), and had a “B” number tattooed on his arm. He lost his entire family there, including seeing his father and brother killed in front of him. He ended up in Mexico, penniless, and died a bit less than 7 years ago as a very wealthy man with children, grandchildren and great grandchild. His greatest joy was to raise funds for Israel. All of that was his way of giving the finger to the paperhanger.
I later found out from someone the man was a Polish Jew and had lost his entire family at Auschwitz. Parents, siblings aunts, uncles, all of them. I prowl You Tube a lot and I do mean prowl. I look for videos dealing with the WW2 era, in particular anything dealing with the Holocaust. When I find neo-Nazis and Nazis worshipers I tear into them. Believe me, the most vile anti-Semetic, anti-American crap comes out of these people. Little SS wanna be's and such. Vile people.
The Russians defeated the Germans who invaded their country. They didn’t fight the Germans in North Africa , Sicily or the Italian mainland. They didn’t posses a navy the ended the U boat threat in the North Atlantic like the US Navy and the Royal Navy did. They didn’t participate in the Normandy landings, they didn’t posses a strategic air force that pounded German cities and war industries into dust the way the 8th. Air Force and the RAF did.
They didn’t fight the Japanese all
through the islands of
the Pacific as the US Army and The United States Marines did, they didn’t posses a navy that put The Imperial Japanese Fleet at the bottom of the Pacific, they didn’t posses a strategic air force that laid waste to Japanese cities and sure as hell didn’t develop and deploy two atomic bombs that bought Japan to the surrender table.
They did sign a non-aggression pact with Hitler that allowed Stalin to snap up the Baltic States. They did invade Poland two weeks after the Germans did and they did invade Finland. And Old Joe Stalin sat fat and sassy in the Kremlin every night during the winter of 1940/41 while the Luftwaffe was pounding the hell out of London.
Yeah, everything was hunky dory with Ol’Joe and Adolf until June of 1941 when Hitler decided he didn’t need a partner anymore then it was “Hey, you in the West, you gotta come save us. You gotta save us now!’’. I’m so sick and tired of hearing this Russian bullshit about how they ‘’won’’ the war. They didn’t. The United States, with it’s near limitless manpower and it industrial might won the Second World War.
The vast majority of the German forces were destroyed by the Russians. Like it or not they defeated the majority of the Japanese in mainland Asia too. The majority of the Japanese troops through the war were in China and Korea. The Russians killed and imprisoned near all of them.
No they weren’t. Millions of Germans were taken prisoner by the Russians. Sorry but I don’t buy any of that “Russia made a significant contribution’’ bs.
You don`t buy but it did.
No. Look at the history. They simply weren’t anywhere near as engaged in fighting German forces on the battlefronts America and it’s allies were fighting them.
Yep, I got it. You are kidding of course.:)
Yep, I got it. You are kidding of course.:)
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