[bitt]

http://perfauto.tripod.com/images/ukrainian_international_ur-psr_shoot_down.jpg

one guy on other thread says
8,000 ft at 275mph, definite surface to air missile.

[Steven W.]

looks like the Iranians shot down their own plane. Ukrainian ... always curiouser & curiouser!

[numberonepal]

See this little vid from planefags:
https://twitter.com/GodandCountry11/status/1214763389991428097