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Chile missing C-130 plane: Floating debris found
BBC ^ | 12/11/2019

Posted on 12/11/2019 6:09:19 PM PST by BenLurkin

Chilean officials say they have located debris believed to be from an air force plane that went missing on Monday.

They said the wreckage was found floating 30km (19 miles) from where the C-130 Hercules cargo plane with 38 people on board last made contact.

The wreckage was spotted in a body of water known as the Drake Passage.

The plane was en route from Chile's southern city of Punta Arenas to the country's Presidente Eduardo Frei Montalva base in the Antarctic.

The located debris "could be part of the remains of the sponges of the internal fuel tanks," Air Force Commander Eduardo Mosqueira told reporters on Wednesday.

Mr Mosqueira said the air force would carry out "corresponding checks" to determine whether the wreckage was from the missing plane.

Three of the passengers were Chilean soldiers, two were civilians employed by engineering and construction firm Inproser going to carry out work on the military base, one was a student and the remaining 15 passengers were members of the air force, an official said.

The three soldiers who boarded the Hercules plane on Monday were Col Christian Astorquiza, Lt Col Oscar Saavedra and Maj Gen Daniel Ortiz.

There was only one woman on board: 37-year-old geographer Claudia Manzo joined the air force in 2008 and was passionate about remote sensing - obtaining information about areas from a distance by aircraft or satellites.

Also among those travelling to the base were two brothers, Luis and Jeremías Mancilla. Jeremías, 27, had been hired by the air force to carry out work on the electrical circuits on the base.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: c130; chile; debris

1 posted on 12/11/2019 6:09:19 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

The Drake passage is freezing and not a friendly place. Prayers for those people.


2 posted on 12/11/2019 6:12:20 PM PST by laplata (He's an evil bastard.minds.)
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To: BenLurkin

Not good, I watched Juan Browns report on this last night.


3 posted on 12/11/2019 6:19:24 PM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: BenLurkin

Having been an air crewman on a C-130 variant, I can tell you there has never been a successful ditching at sea.

As in no survivors. Not once.

Over the entire 60 year life of the aircraft. And probably the best airplane ever built.


4 posted on 12/11/2019 6:28:48 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

Thank you for that.

Why would that be the case? Is it because so few ever lost power over water?


5 posted on 12/11/2019 6:32:21 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Mariner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjyGJO7Qm0

With zero radio transmissions indicating a problem or emergency, I suspect it suffered some kind of rapid catastrophic failure like the USMC KC-130 crash in 2017 and tore herself apart too rapidly for even a radio transmission.
The official video reconstruction above is from the accident investigation.

Thoughts?


6 posted on 12/11/2019 7:13:09 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

wings iced, de-icing boot failure? Ice would build up and build up and build up and then, plop, it’d fall like a rock


7 posted on 12/11/2019 7:18:43 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: DesertRhino

In flight break-ups are almost unheard of. Your video might be the only one.

What usually gets them is outboard engine failure upon takeoff. And pilot error.

The one I remember most is an EC-130Q (from VQ-3) taking off from Wake Island, losing an outboard engine at low altitude, losing air speed and trying to ditch. That was circa 1979.

Crew two.

No survivors.

C-130s don’t float.


8 posted on 12/11/2019 7:34:05 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: BenLurkin

Hmmm, looks like this is a Sat photo of “something” floating in the ocean that maybe could be from the plane... sceptical. My prediction is there will be no confirmed trace. It’s a very remote part of the world.


9 posted on 12/11/2019 7:57:45 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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To: Mariner; BenLurkin
As in no survivors. Not once.

Appears to be a somewhat inaccurate statement.

For example: Colombian Air Force C-130 ditched in the Atlantic in 1982. 13 on board. Eight survivors picked up.
https://www.nytimes.com/1982/10/17/us/aircraft-ditches-in-sea-five-on-board-missing.html

A US one went down in the Pacific in the 1990s. One survivor (of 11 on the plane). Too late in the evening to look for any more.

10 posted on 12/11/2019 8:50:14 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Mariner
Having been an air crewman on a C-130 variant, I can tell you there has never been a successful ditching at sea.

I have over 5000 hours as a C-130 loadmaster and I know of at least one C-130 ditching where the aircraft remained intact and eight people survived. That was a Colombian C-130 that ditched in 1982.

11 posted on 12/11/2019 8:53:51 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: blueplum
wings iced, de-icing boot failure? Ice would build up and build up and build up and then, plop, it’d fall like a rock

The C-130 uses bleed air for deicing, not boots.

12 posted on 12/11/2019 8:54:58 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik

I’m glad they made it.

A rarity for sure.

As you learned in your training.


13 posted on 12/11/2019 11:38:38 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner
Over the entire 60 year life of the aircraft. And probably the best airplane ever built.

One man’s opinion. The C-130 has a way to go to beat the DC-3. Still flying cargo since WW II.

DC-3 Flies Itself.

14 posted on 12/12/2019 12:44:03 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: DesertRhino

This claims the passenger list and flight path aren’t accurate:

https://thecommonsenseshow.com/conspiracy-economics-immigration/china-moving-control-worlds-mineral-resources-america-facing-death-thousand-cuts


15 posted on 12/12/2019 2:04:59 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: BenLurkin

RIP.


16 posted on 12/12/2019 10:01:38 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Dear Mr. Kotter, #Epsteindidntkillhimself - Signed, Epstein's Mother)
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To: DesertRhino

A What’sApp audio message sent by a passenger stated that the plane was having electrical problems per this article:

https://news.yahoo.com/crashed-chile-plane-had-emergency-2016-air-force-142652357.html


17 posted on 12/16/2019 6:04:17 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: DesertRhino

Per this article the plane would have been halfway to the Antartica base when contact was lost:

https://www.stripes.com/news/chile-c-130-missing-with-38-passengers-on-way-to-antarctica-1.610549


18 posted on 12/16/2019 6:06:23 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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