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1 posted on 11/23/2019 6:18:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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The life functions of a single human cell, as described by Dr. Cherry, are far more complex than the world’s most capable supercomputer, and impossible for man to duplicate using non-living materials due to the complexity and the sub-microscopic size and fragility of biochemical and cellular elements that are critical to the development of more complicated functional living things, but also that provide for maintaining the survival of the “lesser” forms of cellular life.

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Evolution is an incredible tool. That’s why God uses it and humans don’t yet understand all of it.


2 posted on 11/23/2019 6:22:47 PM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth, or producing more than we consume.)
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And when you die, you go to heaven and get a big mansion, bigger than everybody else’s.


4 posted on 11/23/2019 7:20:18 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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Exactly. The cell is far to complex to spontaneously form. If life required just 200 amino acids to get together in a certain order, the odds of it happening is something on the order of 1.78 x 10^378 to 1.


7 posted on 11/23/2019 8:33:20 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Everyone who favors socialism plans on the government taking other people's money, not theirs.)
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in other words, since DNA, cannot be assembled without its cell, and a cell cannot function (multiply, live) without its DNA, the first living cell couldn’t have existed without an external agent of causation, a Designer/Creator. QED.

corollary: since living cells exist and multiply, there was a first cell. therefore the Cause or Creator of the first cell existed before the first cell.

because of this and much more, such a Creator, i believe, would rightly be called the Way, the Life and the Truth.


8 posted on 11/23/2019 8:48:40 PM PST by dadfly
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>>SeekAndFind, you quoted: "The commenters responses to my book review of Foresight: How the Chemistry of Life Reveals Planning and Purpose, by Physical Chemist, Spectrometrist Researcher Dr. Marcos Eberlin were, in many cases, well informed and insightful, but one extraordinary commentary was provided by Dr. Ronald Cherry of East Tennessee . . . "

What Eberlin's book and Cherry's commentary emphasizes and reinforces is the universal symbiotic nature of life. Each and every part of a fully-functional organism replies on the existence of every other part, rendering the concept of an organism existing by chance to be, well, irrational.

Eberlin's book concludes with this statement:

"The fathers of modern science—Copernicus, Galileo, Kepler, Newton, Boyle, and many others—saw design in the universe and, indeed, were inspired to discover the laws of nature because of their belief in a transcendent law-giver.

"As for that wondrous journey of discovery that they launched, there seems to be no end in sight. Nobel laureate J. J. Thomson—one of the giants of early modern physics, the discoverer of the electron, and the father of mass spectrometry, my field of expertise—beautifully conveyed this optimistic, open-ended view of science. I can think of no better words for concluding a book about a world filled with evidence of foresight, words as true today as when Thomson penned them in the early twentieth century:

"The sum of knowledge is at present, at any rate, a diverging, not a converging, series. As we conquer peak after peak we see in front of us regions full of interest and beauty, but we do not see our goal, we do not see the horizon; in the distance tower still higher peaks, which will yield to those who ascend them still wider prospects, and deepen the feeling, the truth of which is emphasized by every advance in science, that 'Great are the Works of the Lord.' "

[Marcos Eberlin, "Foresight: How the Chemistry of Life Reveals Planning and Purpose." Discovery Institute Press, 2019, pp.120-121]

Cherry's commentary concludes in this manner:

"Cellular components cannot exist without the pre-existence of DNA genes, yet viable DNA genes cannot exist without the cellular apparatus. DNA genes must come first, before any of the other cellular components for which it codes, yet DNA genes can't be made, maintained, or function in nature without them. It therefore becomes self-evident that living cells cannot self-create, so the only rational, i.e. scientific, alternative explanation for cellular life is that cells were created intact – that DNA genes were created at the same time as the protein enzymes, ribosomes, mitochondria, other organelles, cell membranes, enzymatic membrane receptors and enzymatic membrane electrolyte channels, and that a large amount of information was simultaneously encoded into the DNA during its initial assembly – the information required for maintenance and reproduction of cellular life. Self-assembled cellular life is an irrational idea – belief requires a religious level of faith which contradicts science. Created cellular life requires a Creator – belief requires a religious level of faith which is compatible with science." [Ronald R. Cherry, "Zero probability for self-generated life." Renew America, Nov 14, 2019]

Mr. Kalamata

9 posted on 11/23/2019 9:42:37 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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re: “The Biochemistry Challenge to Darwin”

It’s like, NONE of these people have heard of, are aware of, genetics, and how seemingly different species even contain SOME IDENTICAL DNA.

Can one call these people “phrenologists”?


13 posted on 11/24/2019 6:11:25 AM PST by _Jim (Save babies)
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